我剛坐32個鐘頭的飛機 今天中午2點多到這裡 I have just been on the journey of 32 hours on the plane, and just arrived this afternoon. 我們同工 佈道團的同工 帶了1~200公斤的器材 也一同到這裡來 and also our STEMI co-workers have brought to us about 100 or 200 kgs equipments. 從Chicago（芝加哥） from Chicago, 飛到Philadelphia（費城） coming to Philadelphia, 再飛到Los Angeles（洛杉磯） and we flew to Los Angeles, 飛到台北 Taiwan, 飛到這裡 and this place. 我沒有從頭參加 I did not attend this meeting from the very beginning, 因為我到今年 還是每年坐300次飛機 講500次道 because even this year and the past year, in a year I ride on 300 flights to different places to preach, 71歲了 I'm 71 years old. 所以你們如果自己感到懶惰的 要快快悔改 If you feel that yourselves lazy, please repent now. 有很多傳道人有一種傳道病 作一點點就感到很苦 一點就感到很累 人家對他不好 就以為自己受逼迫 都是神經有病 Many preachers even think do a little bit more, they feel that we already done enough, and also they'll think that people mound to them, they thought that people have not done well to the pastors. 而世界最難醫的 就是傳道人跟牧師的病 And the most difficult to heal sickness are the sickness of the preachers. 常常跟執事不能合作 就說執事在逼迫他 many of time they cannot work together well with the deacon, they say that the deacons are persecuting them. 我們禱告會剩下幾個人 就說耶穌說 2、3個人奉我的名 我就與你們同在 And in the pray meeting if two or three come, they 'll say that Jesus says, if two or three you will pray together, I'll be in the midst. 沒有好好預備講道 人聽不進去 說這個人心很剛硬 If they do not prepare well sermon, people cannot understand them, they say that he is so heart harden. 我如果繼續講下去 If I continue to say this, 那我們要承認的罪是太多了 there are so many sins that we're gonna confess. 我告訴你 22年前 22 years ago, 我開始一個教會 I started a church, 一定要把信仰很堅固的搞定 不然我不建教會 that I'll establish a very strong faith before I establish a church. 而所有的信仰系統裡面 And among all the faith's system, 是最嚴謹的 is the one of the most stringent, 就是歸正信仰 that's reformed theology. 第二 The second, 一定要傳福音 that we have to preach. 如果教會不傳福音就是自殺 If the church doesn't preach we're committing suicide, 所以我把我的教會叫作 「歸正福音教會」 and this is why my church is named the Reform Evangelical Church. 我開始的時候 When I began, 沒有向一個人募捐1塊錢 I didn't ask to solicit fund from even a single one for a dollar, 沒有拿過一個弟兄 或者會友的電話去問他或去找他 and I did not actually take a phone call of any church member, and call them and or go and visit them. 我離開瑪琅神學院 那時候我是董事長 When I left Malang Seminary, I was the president of the board. 我到雅加達來 When I come to Jakarta, 沒有向一個人請用經濟 幫助我們的工作 I did not ask as the solicit to these people, please come help us financially. 到今天也沒有請一個基督徒 離開他的教會 加入我的教會 and even today I haven't ask a single question to leave his church, and come to my church. 那我們從0開始 We started from zero, 然後我決定2年不拿薪水 and I decide that for two years I will not have any salary. 把一家一共7個人 就是我們 我、我太太、我岳母 還有4個孩子 And we have seven members in my family, and also myself, my wife, my children, and my mother-in-law, 還有2個工人 and we have two maids. 730天沒有拿薪水 and 730 days we didn't claim a single salary. 那把工作做起來 But we did our ministry. 什麼都從0 Everything we started from zero. 結果後天我們教會22週年 And day after tomorrow, it will be 22nd anniversary of our church, 我們建了全華人海外 最大的禮拜堂 we have built a church building with the biggest of all the overseas Chinese church. 有4千7百個座位在大堂 and the seat actually can accommodate about 4,700 people, 還有1千8百個座位在副堂 and also there is an auditorium they can ta ke about 1,800 people, 那再建一個神學院 and we built a seminary, 有一個音樂廳 we also have a music concert hall, 一個博物館 and also a Museum, 還有一個24層樓的房子 and also a towering 24 storeys building, 作教育樓等等 and for education purpose. 當全部做好的時候 After we complete everything, 沒有向銀行借1塊錢 we are not borrowing a single cent from the bank. 我們禮拜堂地下有7百個停車位 and even we have a car park that can take about 720 cars, 這是幾乎沒有人可以想像的事情 and almost you cannot imagine this thing can happen. 要證明什麼呢？ What to proof ? 我們證明我們的上帝是又真又活的 It is only about to proof that our God is true and living God. 那這個教會的後面就是一間回教堂 Than behind this church building, there is a mosque, 我們的禮拜堂 比那回教堂大1百倍 and our church a hundred more bigger than that mosque, 那我們與他作朋友 but we befriend them, 彼此尊重 and also we respect each other. 我們不用1塊錢賄賂 We did not use a single dollar to bribe them, 只有跪下禱告 while we kneel and pray, 最後上帝把正式的准字給我們 and then official permit was given to us to build the church. 感謝上帝 Praise God. 7年以前 7 years ago, 我們開始 對全印尼眾海島佈道 We started the preaching all islands in Indonesia, 我下一個命令 I have an instruction, 今年要對2萬人傳道 that this year we want to preach 20,000 people. 大家說怎麼可能？ Everybody says how is it possible? 我們就派傳道人到各鄉各城去 So we send preachers to every town and every village, 因為耶穌走遍各鄉各城傳福音 because Jesus have a circuit preaching to all villages and all towns. 我們到處去講道 So we go to all places to preach, 到了年底的時候 so when it came to the end of the year, 我們達到1萬7千2百個人 來參加我們的佈道會 and we have about 17,200 people who came to attend our meetings. 第2年 The second year, 我說我的目標變成4萬 I said that our goal is 40,000, 到了第2年的時候 when it comes to the second year, 我們得到的是5萬2千9百人 we had actually 52,900 people. 以後第3年 And the third year, 目標變成10萬 we've got 100,000 people to preach, when it comes to the end of the year, 參加所有佈道會的人 加起來是12萬人 the total member is 120,000. 第4年 The forth year, 我們變成20萬 than become 200,000. 第5年 The fifth year, 變成30萬 become 300,000. 第6年 The sixth year, 變成50萬 become 500,000. 那麼去年第6年12月底算起來 一共參加聚會是62萬8千人 and last year, coming to the end of year, we make calculation, it was 628 thousand people. 今年第7年 And this is seventh year this year, 我們定的目標是1百萬 and our goal is 1 million people. 到2天以前 and two days ago, 已經59萬8千人來聽道 we have already have 598,000 people who came. 我們現在還有3個月 And we have still three more months ago, 3個月要對49萬人傳道 we have to preach 490,000 people. 你說唐牧師你在講夢話？ 我告訴你我在講真話 Pastor Tang you're dreaming, but I say I'm telling fact. 因為我沒有時間 我可以把所有聚會的照片給你看 I don't have time, but I can show you all the pictures, 我們的傳道人 and our preachers, 有的沒有什麼口才 some are not eloquent, 但有很火熱的心 but with a fire heart. 所以有時他們 可以一次對7、8 千個人講道 Sometimes for single occasion, they can preach seven or eight thousand people. 請問一個教會 一年對1百萬人傳道 可能嗎？ Is it possible for a church in a year to evangelize 1 million people? 可能 Possible. 對1百多個城市的人 訓練信仰跟神學課程 I want to ask, is it possible for a single church, to train people to go to 700 places to treat and train people? 我們開神學課程的夜校 And also we have extension night classes, 現在在107個城市有這樣的學校 now 107 cities have this kind of training, 全部從一個教會作起來 by started only from one single church. 沒有向人要錢 We do not ask for any others, 每一個地方 every single place, 人蒙恩 就叫他 你要出錢 people are blessed and says you must make offerings, 他們就甘心出錢 and they are so willingly making offerings. 所以神的感動越來越清楚 So the touching of God is so clear, 事就這麼成了 and such thing is accomplished. 我自己呢要作頭 And I have to lead, 所以我一年在世界各地 有大概15到17個大佈道會 so in a year, I have about more than 17 big rallies in the world. 5天以前在芝加哥 Five days ago I was in Chicago, 有1千7百個人來參加 and 1,700 people came to attend, 3個聚會超過4千多人 and for three meetings together more than 4,000 people, 那麼也有2、3百人到前面來 and two or three hundred people respond the order call. 就一直不停、不斷的做工 Because we continue and continue to work, 否則我也不敢來參加華福會議 if not I then I dare not come to this CCCOWE meeting. 因為這是一個福音會議 because this is a meeting of evangelism. 如果我們是為會議而不是為福音 我們就不是神的好孩子 we become only for a convention, but not for the gospel whether the children of God. 我們去宣教的時候 When we go evangelize, 我們是把基督帶去 we bring Christ along, 我們站講台的時候 and we stand a podium, 把神的真理傳開 that is the Word of God that we preach. 我們與人見面的時候 When we encounter people, 要把人帶到主的面前 we want to bring people to the Christ. 永遠記得我們的目的是什麼 Forever remember what is the goal, 無論你作什麼 no matter what we do, 都是要叫別人與我們 一同得到福音的好處 let others to us will benefit from the good of this, the gospel. 保羅說 我不以福音為恥 And Paul said I don't feel ashamed of the gospel, 這福音本是上帝的大能 this gospel is the power of God, 要拯救一切相信的人 one He saved all those that believe. 凡不傳福音的教會 這是自走絕路的教會 The church they seldom evangelize, the church they go to the end. 上帝給教會最大的恩賜 And the greatest gift of the church of the God, 就是聖靈跟祂的能力 it is the Holy Spirit and His Power. 上帝給世界最大的恩賜 That the biggest gift God gave to the world, 就是賜下獨生子為我們死 there's given His only Son who died for us. 聖父把聖子給全世界 God the Father give God the Son also to do the whole world, 聖子把聖靈給教會 and also the Son give also the Holy Spirit to the whole church, 聖靈把真理給信徒 and also the Holy Spirit give the truth to the believers, 所以我們藉著上帝的道 so through the Word of God, 認識基督 we know Christ, 我們借著聖靈 through the Holy Spirit, 明白上帝的道 we understand the Word of God. 我們借著基督的死與復活 Through the death and resurrection of Christ. 回到父的面前 we will come back to the Father. 我們一定要傳福音 Surely we have to preach, 我們如果不傳福音 if we do not preach, 我們就有災禍了 then war will be upon us. 我從17歲奉獻作傳道 Since the age of 17 when dedicating myself to the Lord, 到現在是54年又8個月 until today is 54 years and 8 months, 如果你問我再從頭來 if you would ask me if I would restart, 你要做什麼？ What are you going to do? 我照樣作傳道 The same thing I'll be a preacher. 因為世界一切的一切都要過去 because all things in the world shall pass, 唯獨遵行上帝旨意的人 是永遠長存 but he who obey the Word of God shall live forever. 我們世界所得的 財富、房產、地皮 完全不能帶回去 All the wealth that we gain in this world, shall not be brought to the heaven. 我們真正能自己擁有的一塊地皮 就是1公尺乘2公尺 裝你棺材的那塊地 the only piece of land we sure will gain, is 1 meter by 2 meters, the one that also will take in a coffin. 有錢的人可以買更大的棺材 Of course, those are rich can buy a bigger casket, 但耶穌再來 棺材太大 復活比較辛苦 but when Jesus Christ come again, the casket is too big, is difficult for it to rise up again. 所以保羅說 So Paul said, 你有吃有穿就當知足 and also this, you have food, you have clothing, you must be contented. 今天教會里有一些人 很看重有錢的人 有錢的人 除了他有錢以外 我非常看不起 and also today many of our church esteem very highly of those are rich, but other than richness, I would rather despise those are rich. 今天很多人認為有錢人奉獻一點 比一大堆信徒奉獻很多還更重要 there are a lot of people who feel that it's more important for rich men to offer a little bit than much offerings from the poor. 我告訴你 有一個有錢人 他送一個1萬多塊美金的手錶 給他的女朋友 但是奉獻的時候只有50塊美金 人家就認為他很愛主了 But I tell you there is a young man who is rich, also give a watch about $10,000 for a girlfriend, but when he gives to Lord only $50. 當你到上帝面前來的時候 When he comes before God, 你一切的假面具都要脫下來 all your mask will be dismasked. 你不能用虛假的面具 來到上帝面前 You cannot use a hypocrite mask to face God, 因為上帝要用祂兩刃的利劍 刺透你的心 用祂比X光更利的眼光 看到你的心腸肺腑 because God will use a two-edged sword to appear you, and also God's eyes will be sharper than x-ray. 我們可以成就大事 That we can achieve bit things for God, 但是你不要向有錢人屈服 but do not actually kowtow (磕頭) to those rich men. 你要讓有錢人屈服在上帝的寶座下 but rather the rich man kneels before the throne of God, 否則教會就不是上帝的家 if not, the church is not the house of God. 傳道人只有一個老闆 就是耶穌基督 Because of the preacher only one boss that's Christ Jesus. 教會只有一個寶座 就是上帝的寶座 And the church has one throne, that's the throne of God. 教會只有一個信息 就是神要人得救 回到上帝面前的信息 The church has only one message to preach, that is, wants people to come back to God and go back to Him. 我今年是最後一次參加華福大會 and this year, will be last year I attend CCCOWE. 因為我第一屆到第八屆都在裡面 Because for the first until the 8th session I have come. 現在71歲了 I am 71, 應當讓年輕的人繼續起來 it must be the young one who takes a baton. 華福大會是1974年在洛桑開始的 And actually CCCOWE began in 1974 in the Lausanne conference, 93個華人的牧師、傳道 93 Chinese pastors, preachers, 一同在洛桑大會裡面 together in the Lausanne conference, 我們93個人一同發起華福運動 we intergroup 93 together, we started this CCCOWE. 1976年我們就在香港第一次會議 so in 1976 there was a first conference CCCOWE in Hong Kong. 1981在台灣第二次會議 in 1981 in Taiwan, 1986在新加坡第三次會議 in 1986 third time in Singapore, 以後第四次 The fourth time, 在哪裡啊？ 在菲律賓 Philippines. 第五在哪裡？ 香港 The fifth, Hong Kong, the fifth. 第六在吉隆坡 Kuala Lumpur. 第七在澳門 The seventh in Macau. 這是第八次 Now is eighth. 我從第一次到第八次 八屆作了七屆的講員 我怎麼可以不退休了？ and from the first one to the eighth one, I become the speaker for the conference, I should retire. 我宣佈這是最後一次 and now I announced, last time. 如果五年以後 If five years latter, 我還可以講道 if I can speak preach, 我也不講道了 I will not come to preach. 我不是在別的地方 是在華福大會我不講道了 I'm just saying that in CCCOWE meeting, I will not be preaching. 那麼 今年照樣的慣例 And this year in the same custom, 我的教會主要是印尼文的 my church speak mainly in the Indonesian language, 我們的中文是比較小的 and our standard speaking conversation is smaller. 那我們每年支持華福5千塊美金 And every year we support the CCCOWE 5000 US dollars, 每一次大會支持1萬塊美金 and also for the conference we had 10,000, 今年我會支持華福1萬5美金 and also this year we're also support 15,000 US dollars 加上佈道團再支持5千美金 2萬美金 and the STEMI also will support five thousand US dollars. 下個禮拜我們就寄來 so next month we'll, next week we'll send it here, 所以剛才李牧師報告錯了 and just our reverend Lee make a wrong announcement, 他說1億5千多萬（印尼盾） 那不過是1萬7美金不到 不是8萬8 and actually the 100 million of Rupiah is less 5000? No, 153 million is equal to among on the 17 thousand US. 不是 Not 88 thousand 所以你們不要空高興一場 about 17 thousand US. 但我聽說 我一來就問華福欠多少錢 so when I came the first time, I asked how much we're in lack. 如果不錯 還欠30多萬是嗎？ maybe more more... 怎麼處理呢？ more than 3 hundred thousand 那我負責2萬 so we'll be responsible for 20,000, 那你們教會 your church, 回去以後 when you go back, 你就寄一些錢來 you'll send some money here, 每一個教會寄錢來 ever church will send some money here, 一個禮拜就解決了 then we solve the problem in one week. 阿們 鼓掌最大聲的要負責任 the one you make the loudest applaud, you must take the bigger responsibility. 我這個人不要講一句空話 I don't say a word in vain, 剛才我們器材要放在這裡錄音 我說我七十多歲 我每一次講道 我佈道團要好好錄起來 and I said that every time when I come, the STEMI will record my message. 有人說大概不可以的 Some say no no no, 我說不可以我就不講 you say no, then I won't preach, 我就坐飛機回雅加達 I'll take flight and go back to Jakarta. 為什麼呢？ Why? 因為我4、50歲的時候 Because when my age at 40 or 50, 我有很多最重要的思想 都用最爛的錄音機錄下來 there's some very important thought of my, record in a very bad kind of recording, 這個不行的 No, 因為神給我的托付很大 because the entrustment God has given to me to speak. 所以現在我的錄音帶 在全中國大陸 有幾千萬的人在聽 Even my taping in this Mainland China, more than millions of people are listening to my tape. 我沒有機會跟你們開玩笑 I do not have a time to kid with you. 我們佈道團 買過一個鏡頭10萬美金的 We have actually bought a lens more than a hundred thousand US. 要留下一些重要的東西 作中國教會的屬靈遺產 Because we want to keep some good records for the future materials for Mainland China. 所以你們的聚會我不錄 So if I make a record in a meeting, 我沒有權柄錄別人的 then I don't have authority to record, 但是我有權柄讓佈道團錄我所講的 but I have authority for the STEMI to record my own preaching. 因為我的責任感很重 Because my central responsibility is heavy. 願上帝賜福給我們 May God bless us. 今天我對你們講的話 Now today what I speak to you, 每一句都從心坎裡面講出來 every single statement come deep from my heart. 保羅說 無論希利尼人 Paul said, no matter he is Greek, 無論化外人 no matter he is a Gentile, 無論聰明人 no matter he is intelligent one, 無論愚拙人 or the foolish one, 我都欠他們的債 I owe them. 這個虧欠感 This sense of indebtedness, 就是傳道人 可以繼續傳福音的動力 become a motivational force for a preacher continue to preach. 我們今天看見人 你看見什麼？ Today we see people, what do you see? 你有沒有看見他正在走下地獄？ Do you see they're walking to the way of hell? 他無論坐飛機、坐船 他最後就是走下地獄 No matter what kind of transportation they are on, actually they are going to hell. 你有沒有看見 他們滅亡跟你不傳福音是有關係？ Do you see that when they perish is related to when the fact that if you don't peach? 你有沒有感到 神放在你心中一個欠債的責任？ Do we also have a sense whereby God put in your heart a sense of indebtedness. 前十多年 Decades ago, 我一個學生要退休 叫我講道 我說你的老師沒有退休 你怎麼敢退休？ I have a student who's about to retire, ask me to preach, I said, your teacher heaven retire how can you retire? 一個七十多歲的人不可以在家裡靜休 好好培養自己年老的靈性 跟他的個性嗎？ One 70 years old, can't he stay at home cultivated his own spirituality and also his goodness? 為什麼每天還是這樣辛苦？ Why is that every day he works so hard? 我要自己一個人拿著皮箱 追著巴士、天天坐飛機 到處講道？ Alone he carried a package and run after the bus and also the flight, and go to everywhere to preach. 因為我欠他們的債 Because I indeed owe them. 這欠債的感覺 Sense of indebtedness, 這個自己對自己追討的這個心情 that you want to seek after your own heart for the debt, 是不准我們休息的 it doesn't allow us to take a break. 唐牧師啊 你要休息啊！ Reverend Tong, you may take a rest. 我會對你說 撒但 退去吧！ I said, Satan retreat for me. 有一天我們會到上帝那裡 One day we shall go to His place, 耶穌說 勞苦擔重擔 一生為我工作的來吧！ 祂會替我預備很好的休息室 Christ said, come those who pick the burden for me for the whole life, I'll prepare the place for him. 我們今天作一點就感到苦得不得了 Now we'll do a little bit, we feel that we've suffered a lot. 我們怎麼不得罪上帝？ How dare we say we do not run against God. 我們看見千萬人下地獄 Thousands of people are going to hell, 我們心裡很平安 can we have peace in our heart? 我們過假冒偽善的生活太久了 We have let allow hypocrisy for a long time. 18年以前 18 years ago, 我講一句話 I say a statement, 雅加達如果在10年裡面 增加300間教會 Jakarta if in a year increase the church number by 300, 每一個教會有100個會友 that every church has a 100 members, 雅加達才增加3萬個人 we only but increase in membership of thirty thousand. only thirty thousand. 但是雅加達每1年增加的人口 是大概50萬到70萬人 by then the increase in the population in Jakarta is more than five hundred thousand seven thousand people a year. 所以我們的心根本完全沒有感覺 So our heart does not have any kind of feeling, 我們建多少教會 都來不及應付人口的增加 no matter how many churches that we build, we can not meet up to the increasement in population. 但我們最討厭別人開教會 Of course, we hate people to establish the church. 很多教會的領袖 都是最攔阻上帝工作的人 many of the church leaders are those who hinder the work of God. 教會的領袖應當發展神的工作 The church leader must develop the work of God. 但今天很多教會的領袖 是專門攔阻上帝的工作 But we see today that the leader of church, they obstruct the work of God. 我還沒建教會以前 before I have my church, 眾教會對我好得不得了 all the church are good to me. 自從我建了教會以後 Ever since I establish my church, 一個一個改變臉色 我看得很清楚 one by one they change the face, I see them. 但我對你們沒有興趣 But I'm not interested in you, 因為我一生要看的 就是上帝的臉孔 because in my whole life, I'll see how God feel. 神要作的我一定作 What God want to do, I will surely do. 你喜歡 我作 你不喜歡 我照樣作 You like it, I'll do it, if you don't like it, I'll do it. 因為我們要討主的喜悅 because I want to please God. I tell you, 如果教會不走歸正神學的路線 if the church doesn't try in a path of the reformed theology, 20年以後 and 20 years later, 華福會搖搖晃晃 and the CCCOWE will shake. 沒有一個神學系統 是比歸正運動更把人帶回聖經的 there's no one single theological system will bring us back at reform to the Bible. 如果華福沒有真正 實實在在去傳福音 If the CCCOWE doesn't truly go and preach, 20 years latter, 我們又增加4次的大會 we increase four more times of the conference, 你來了、我來了 那一屆我看到你 現在看到你很高興 就是這樣 and you come, I come, I'll see you, I am happy, that's it. 我們的教會沒有增加人數 Then there's no increase in numbers of the church, 也沒有很多的人因為我們得救 and not many people through us are saved. 我們怎麼可以不得罪上帝？ How can we say we don't run against God? 我們怎麼可以過這樣的生活？ How can we live this kind of life? 請問 這幾十年裡面 For this decades past, 你的教會跟你所在的城市 人口增加的比例 你算過沒有？ your church member and also as compare increased of the population of the city are they in good proportion? 1975年的時候 In 1975, 雅加達的人口 Jakarta's population, 大概是600萬 about six million, 現在雅加達的人口 是2150萬 but now is 20 million people. 這麼大的城市 Such a big city, 需要多少的教會 how many churches that we need? 應該多少人信主？ how many people have come to Christ? 我們不管 We don't care. 我們只要我們的會友 已經增加幾十個了 you say that my church member has increased maybe in tens. 我的教會已經增加了多少percent My church increased so many percent. 我們跟世界人口增加的比例 追得上嗎？ but on comparing to the increase of population of the world, can we make up that? 有一個牧師對我說 我的教會滿滿的人 There's a pastor who told me that, pastor, my church is packed with people. 我說 為什麼你教會會滿呢？ I said, How come your church packed with people? 因為我們很努力做工 Because we work very hard he said. 對不起你這個答案不大好 I say I'm sorry this is not too good. 他心裡想 誒 唐牧師說不大好 大概是不夠好 因為神憐憫我們 He said, maybe pastor Tong says no good, maybe it's no good. Maybe God mercy on us. 這個答案比較好了 I said this answer is a little bit better, 還是不好 not good enough. 後來他說 因為我們同工們大家都熱心事奉主 He said that maybe because our co-workers very fervent in preaching the gospel. 這個問題你的答案已經更好 I say your answer is better now but not good enough. 他就生氣了 He got angry now. 那唐牧師你的答案是什麼？ Stephen Tong, what is your answer? 你的禮拜堂會滿因為有4片牆壁 I say your church is packed because there are four walls, 如果你的禮拜堂沒有4片牆壁 請問 滿不滿？ if there are no four walls, Can you say your church is packed? 你的禮拜堂要滿 最好的辦法就是作小一點 就更滿 I tell, if you want your church is packed, it's easy because of build a smaller church. 再小 就更滿 You build a smaller one, 愈小就愈容易滿 The smaller, the easy to pack. 那是自己騙自己的東西 You are cheating on yourself. 再來 耶穌說 我另外有羊 Jesus said, I have a group of sheep, 要把他帶回羊圈 I'll bring them back to the pen, 歸回一群 and become one. 那個另外有羊 That another group of sheep, 另外有羊、另外有羊 another sheep, another sheep. 要一生一世催逼我們 不可以停止佈道 For whole life, it will compel us not to cease me. 你一定要繼續佈道 We have to continue the preach, 把很多人帶到主的面前來 we bring people to Christ. 我們的教會一年對1百萬人傳道 For our church in the year, we preach 1 million people. 沒有帶他們到我們禮拜堂來 We didn't bring them to our church, 因為他們在很遠的地方 because they are in a faraway place. 在Palangkaraya The place far, 他們在Sumba Sumba, 他們在Tapanuli Tapanuli, 都是最偏僻的地方 very remote places. 這一次我的孩子 And now my son, 36歲 36 years old, 已經物理學博士 he already got a PhD in physics, 大學副教授 and also the assistant professor in the university, 拿了神學碩士 and also in a master of theology. 回來1個多月 He came back for a month, 照樣到鄉下去佈道 go to very remote place to preach. 滿身大汗 He had the tear and sweat coming. 3個禮拜講40次道 In three weeks he preached 44 times. 回到家裡的時候 Coming back to the house, 你感到怎麼樣？ I said, how do you feel? 他說 我感到我的恩賜還不夠 I'm not too gifted, 因為我對8歲以下的孩子 很難應付 because to preach those who are less than 8 years old, it's difficult for me to preach them. 那我說 你去佈道 What do you feel when you go evangelize? 我感到非常快樂 I rejoice. 所以我的心非常滿足 My heart felt contented. 因為我的下一代 正在作神要我作的工作 他也開始作了 Because my next generation is doing the work what God want me to do. 他會放下無論多高的地位 多大的薪水 He can renounce the big salary and big position, 加入我們教會到各鄉各城的佈道 if our church got to go to every single village to preach. 當他拿到物理學博士的那一天 When he got his PhD in physics, 你父親已經傳道50年了 I said your father has preached for more than 55 years, 你願意不願意再延長50年 are you willing to extend another 50 years? 讓我們父子 兩代服事這個罪惡的世界100年 so as father and son will serve this age for a century. 第2個月 The second month, 他就進到西敏神學院去讀書 he went and study in Westminster. 親愛的弟兄姐妹 My dear brothers and sisters, 一定要有年輕人出來 surely the young one should come, 一定有奉獻作傳道的人 surely you must dedicate yourself to be a preacher. 我這54年半裡面 For this fifty four and a half years, 呼召人奉獻作傳道 I've call people to dedicate themselves to be a preacher, 一共超過24萬8千人走到前頭來 there is more than 240,000 people come forward. 24萬8千人 248,000. 到前面來 They came forward. 其中有的念神學 有的念不成 Some studied in the seminary some did not. 但是你從華神、中神、新神 馬來西亞神學院一直到印尼 你看很多在神學院裡讀書的人 都在我的聚會裡面奉獻的 But you can see that in many students that come from many seminary in the world, many came claim because I call them in the meetings. 在每一個華福大會裡面 In every CCCOWE meeting, 只要我作講員的 if I would be the speaker, 我一定呼召人出來作傳道 surely I'll call be forward, to dedicate themselves. 因為只有有人出來傳道 if only that people will come to preach, 教會注重傳福音 and the church emphasizing in preach, 這個世界才有盼望 then there's hope for the world. 求主憐憫我們 May God have mercy on us, 保羅說聰明人我欠他 Paul said the wise one, I owe advise them. 什麼意思？ What do you mean by that? 保羅已經預備好了 應付最有頭腦的人對福音的需要 Paul had already prepared to speak to those who are highly intellectual. 保羅說愚拙人我欠他 Even the fool, I also exhort them. 那些沒有學問的人 我照樣傳福音給他 those who are less educated, I also preach the gospel to them. 傳福音不可看階級 in preaching the gospel, we do not see classes. 孔子說 有教無類 Confucius said that we teach without dividing the classes, 基督徒 有傳無類 the same thing we're preaching of Christian, we will not be dividing the classes to preach. 聰明的人到我們的教會裡面來 The wise one who come to the church, 聽了我們的牧師講道以後 他滿意嗎？ hearing our pastor preaching, are they happy? 最普通的人 And the most common people, 到我們教會裡面來 when they come to our church to listen, 聽了我們傳的福音 他聽得懂嗎？ hearing the gospel we preach, do they understand? 唐朝的詩人白居易 Bai Juyi the poet of Tang Dynasty, 每次寫一首詩以後 every time when he composed a poem, 他一定跑到隔壁 附近一個老人家那裡 he will go to the next door ask an old folk, 念給婦女來看 the he read to her, 她說 我不懂這句話是什麼意思 and if she said, I don't understand what do you mean by that? 他就修改 Then he will amend it. 改到這老婦人聽懂每一句話 他才印出來 Until this old lady understand before he want to print it. 今天教會一定要明白 Today the church must understand, 我們的信息 足夠應付最聰明的教授們 there are messages enough to meet the highest professor, 足夠使最窮的人得到滿足 even our message can also preach to those who are poor educationally. 對聰明人我欠債 對愚拙人我也欠債 and that why Paul said to the wise, I'm debtor also to the poor and intelligent. 但是保羅又講2種人 Paul also said two kind of things, 化外人 我也欠他們的債 even those barbarians I'm in debt to them, 希利尼人 我也欠他們的債 to the Greeks, I'm in debt to them. 那麼化外人是什麼人？ what are the barbarians? 就是在巴爾幹半島向北 一直差不多到波羅的海 那些最沒有文化的人 That is those who are less educated in the Europe. 也就是Gaul people That is Gaul. 高盧人是非常凶、非常野蠻 又不讀書、沒有學問的人 They are those very fierce, very barbarian, do not have much education. 保羅說 對這種人我也欠他們的債 Paul said, to this kind of people, I'm in debt to them. 所以每一個教會要預備心 應付社會各個階層、民族 各種不同的人 So the church must be prepared to meet the needs of all classes in the society. 我大概10年以前 About a decade ago, 我開始在我的神學院定下一條 in my seminary, I have this instruction, 在這神學院讀書的人 三樣事都要學會 if you study in the seminary, that three things you have to meet. 第一 The first, 一定會傳福音 he must start to preach. 一定會教導很深的神學 He must teach very deep profound theology. 第三 一定要牧養教會 The third, he must pastor a church. 西方的神學教育 The western seminary education, 訓練作牧師的只懂作牧養 不會教導 they train pastor who only knows how to pastor, but don't know how to teach. 訓練教導的很懂知識 不懂佈道 And train those how to teach, but they don't know how to evangelize. 佈道學院專門佈道、佈道 什麼學問都沒有 and those evangelizer do not have any knowledge at all. 所以有學問的高言大智 So those who are the learned, talk and think within deep profound, 傳福音的不學無術 But those who are preaching, they are not educated at all. 作牧師的一直想 快快得到博士學位 So as a pastor you want to gain a PHD degree fast, 不是PHD 是Doctor of Ministry and Doctor of Ministry, 而Doctor of Ministry 是很少有學問的人 and doctor of Ministry, there are very few people who are learned. 所以把上帝的工作三分化 So you want to tri-columnize the work of God, 結果能作這個的不能作那個 so he can do this, cannot do that, 能作那個的又不能作這個 he can do this cannot do that. 所以呢 專研究學問的人從來不傳道 So those who make research will never evangelize, 專佈道的人從來不懂信仰 so those who evangelize doesn't know good faith. 所以當教會的信條受到威脅的時候 So when the creed believe of the church being threatened, 整個教會亂七八糟 then the church was in a mess. 這樣我們看見整個 耶穌基督的身體 Then we'll see the whole body of Christ, 就支離破碎 it will be fragmented. 當重要的信仰課題來到的時候 What an important topic of faith comes, 沒有人知道怎麼處理這個事情 no one know how to deal with it. 雅加達有一個很大的教會 Jakarta, there's a big church, 請一個人來講道 invited a person to come to preach, 突然這個講道完後就用手按 人家就倒在地上 certainly after preaching, he used a hand and stretch and people fell out, 哇！執事不知道要怎麼是好 the deacon doesn't know what to do. 所以就對他們的傳道說 So tell the preacher, 那麼現在亂成這一團 你們去處理吧！ now it is all in mess, you go and deal with it. 他們的傳道說 我們都沒有經驗處理這樣的事情 Their pastor said that we don't have experience with that. 所以派一個人到我家裡來 So sent a person to my home, 唐牧師 我們教會請一個講員來 現在教會弄得大家倒在地上 怎麼辦？ Reverend Tong, we invited speaker in our church, they come and and make everybody fall, what do to now? 執事們有困難的時候就交給傳道人 So when the deacon have the problem, they committed to the preacher, 因為你們念神學 你們去處理 because you study theology, 那這傳道人也不知道怎麼辦 and this preacher doesn't know how to do, 好在那些傳道人不是靈恩派派來的 and it's good they did not come from the charismatic church. 不然就一面倒 整個教會就完了 if not, that will be the disaster of the church. 所以那個牧師來找我 So that pastor come see me, 唐牧師 Reverend Tong, 我要怎樣處理這事情？ what am I going to do with this? 我問他說 I asked him, 你倒下去的那人 你問你有注意他向哪裡倒嗎？ then the one who falls, do you pay attention which direction that he fall? 向右邊倒呢？ to the right? 或是向左邊倒呢？ or to the left? 或是向前面倒？ or to the front? 或向後面倒？ or to the back? 好像都是向後面倒 And all falling to the back, he said. 那我說 這就不對了 This is wrong. 因為聖經裡面向前倒是俯伏敬拜 because to fall from the front, you bow and worship to God, 向右倒、向左倒 聖經沒有記載 and there's no recording of the falling to the right or to the left in a Bible. 向後倒 to the back, what do you mean by that? 這個不是俯伏 and this is not bowing, 這個是四腳朝天 now you have four limbs facing them. 那麼呢聖經裡面 這樣的例子是什麼呢？ and what kind of example in the Bible? 掃羅有過這樣的經驗 Saul had this experience, 以後呢聖經說 掃羅也列在先知中嗎？ and this one in the Bible asks, is Saul is also among the prophet? 都是用『嗎？』、『嗎？』 and asking questions, use the question mark. 那是寫聖經的人懷疑他不是先知 所以說『嗎？』 because of the writer of the Bible, sceptical whether he's a prophet. 還有另外一次記載在約翰福音 Another record in the Book of John, 他們在客西馬尼園找耶穌 in the Gethsemane, they want to find Jesus. 拿撒勒人耶穌在哪裡？ and who is the Nazareth? Who is the Nazareth? 耶穌沒有逃走 Jesus did not run away, 耶穌沒有否認 He didn't deny, 耶穌說 我就是 He said, I am. 他們就退後倒在地上 And they fall to the back. 所以這絕對不是聖靈的工作 Absolutely this is not the work of the Holy Spirit. 這個人醒過來了 And then he came to understand, 他回到他的教會 he goes back to his church, 他說這個不是聖靈的工作 This is not the work of the Holy Spirit, he said. 為什麼向後倒？ Why falling to the back? 這個不是聖經 不要笑啊 這是撒但的工作 These are the work of Satan. 所以今天有很多靈恩派領袖 都是騙子 Today many of the charismatic leaders, actually, they are cheaters. 他們自己在金錢上很不誠實 Because they are not honest in the finance, 在性的事情上很亂來 even on sex too, 所以金錢跟性慾 就是撒但的2個工作 so money and sex are the two work of Satan. 今天印尼有幾個靈恩派的牧師 Today even in Indonesia, there are few charismatic pastors. 在美國每一次訂的西裝 都是7、8千塊美金 and even this coat that they made from America, maybe about seven to eight thousand. 不是Maybe, Exactly Exactly, exactly. 因為我一個會友 也在同一家買那種西裝 Because I have a church member who also make the same kind of coat. 這些人相信信耶穌就會豐富 就會發財 So they believe that they believe in Jesus, they become wealthy, 所以會友沒有發財以前 他先發財 so before even the church member becomes rich, they become rich first. 他怎麼發財？ How did he become rich? 因為會友的十分之一奉獻 是他自己的 Because the tithing of the church member come to him. 所以這些騙子 So these cheaters, 把會友辛苦賺的錢 拿去買飛機 and they also use the money to buy a plane, 買勞斯萊斯汽車 Rolls-Royce Car, 甚至有一個靈恩派領袖的 孩子跟女婿用槍 彼此差不多相殺 and even a charismatic pastor, even the in-laws want to kill each other. 他們用很多的錢賄賂 收買回教的領袖 盼望他們可以建大禮拜堂 they used much money to bribe the leaders of the government, hoping that they can build church buildings. 這是比世界更黑暗的事情 dark even darker to the world. 他們引進Benny Hinn來 They invite Benny Hinn to come, 因為Benny Hinn也就 在那邊買7、8千塊一套的西裝 Because Benny Hinn also by the coat clothes, that cost seven to eight thousand dollars. Benny Hinn來的時候 When Benny Hinn come, 一定有bodyguard（保鑣）跟他來 there is body guard to come, 好像大總統來到一樣 like the president that comes, 然後進旅館的時候 when enter into the hotel, 都是有很多的侍衛跟他進去 and also there are people who guard him. 所以他的聚會呢 His meeting, 每一個人進去 都要付幾百塊美金 if you are coming, you're gonna pay hundreds of dollars. 你知道剛才你看的照片 印尼有的一家人一天 才拿1塊美金過生活 you know that just the photo you see, that Indonesia people who earn less a dollar a day. 所以那些愛發財的人 Those who like to be wealthy, 撒但就讓他發財 Satan allow them to be rich, 那他以為這就是上帝的工作 they thought this is the work of God. 現在Benny Hinn要離婚了 Benny Hinn now have to divorce. 這些靈恩派的領袖 All these charismatic leaders, 一個一個 在財、在色的事情有問題 one by one on money and sex with problematic, why? 因為他們最專講聖靈 Because when they preach, they emphatically on the Holy Spirit. 但他們最不能過聖潔的生活 But they can't lead a holy life. 「聖潔」是魔鬼 沒有辦法模仿的事情 Holiness is what the Satan cannot imitate. 聖潔是屬於神的 Holiness belong to God. 聖潔是屬於基督的 Holiness belong to Christ. 聖潔是屬於聖靈的 Holiness belong to the Holy Spirit. 聖父、聖子、聖靈是聖潔的 God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit is holy. 這是沒有辦法模仿的 Something you cannot imitate. 恩賜可以模仿 Gift can be imitate, 才幹可以冒充 also talents you can imitate, 口才、講話都可以學別人作 the skill of eloquence you can imitate, 但是聖潔是絕對不能模仿的 holiness absolute you cannot imitate. 我們一定要有很清楚的眼光 分辨哪一個是從神來 哪一個不是 We must have clear vision to define who is coming from God, who is not. 我直到今天從來沒有買過 超過1百塊美金的西裝 I haven't buy a coat that costs more than hundred US, 我照樣很英俊啊！ but I looked handsome now, 我不怕你輕看我啊！ I am not afraid that you despise me, 因為人不可以用外貌看人 because men will not judge other people on appearance. 神的工作、事情上 Upon God's ministry, 我敢花很多錢 I dare to spend much money, 我敢奉獻很多錢 I dare to make many offerings, 我自己的生活 about my own life, 盡量節省 I try to be thrift, 盡量過便宜的、簡單的生活 and also lead a simple life, 我把榮耀歸給上帝 then we give glory to God. 保羅講一句我要特別解釋的話 Paul said this I must explain, 希利尼人 我欠他們的債 to the Greeks, I am in debt. 希利尼人是誰？ Who are the Greeks? 希利尼人是不是希臘人？ And the Greeks are the Hellenics? 希利尼人跟希臘人 不同的地方在哪裡？ And what is the different of the Hellenics and the Greeks? 希臘人是本土 the Greeks are the aboriginal, 希利尼比較外圍 but the Hellenics are more in the peripheral. 希臘人在雅典四周的地方 And the Greeks among the Athens, 但是希利尼就包括了馬其頓 by the Hellenics included Macedonia, 包括土耳其的西部 and also the western side of Turkey, 包括愛琴海的海島 of the Aegean the island. 所以Hellenistic（希利尼）跟 Greece（希臘）是不一樣的 So the Greeks and the Hellenics is different. Hellenistic可以被解釋為 pan-Greek the Hellenics can be interpreted as 泛希臘 好像Manila（馬尼拉） 是一個城市 Just like the mandala is a city, 大概5百萬人口 maybe five million people, 但Great Manila（大馬尼拉） 就有1千多萬人口 but Great Manila have more then that. 重慶有7百萬人口 So Chongqing have seven million people, 泛重慶有3千萬人口 so the metropolitan is more than that. 雅加達有7百萬人口 Jakarta have seven million people, 9百萬人口 nine million people, 但整個四周圍加起來 有2千多萬人口 but the greater of the Jakarta is more than that. 希臘也是如此 The same with the Greece. 希臘的本土 The Greece of origin place, 是學術最高的 the highest intellectual, 是教育最普遍的 and also very popular with education. 但泛希臘 But the pan-Greek, 是四周被包在裡面 受希臘影響的一大片的土地 and a lot of these people who are influenced by the Greek culture. 那麼希臘本土的文化是什麼時候？ and what is aborigine kind of cultural of the Greek? 是主前6百到主前4百年 It's actually about 400 to 600 B.C., 到泛希臘的時候 While come to the Hellenics, 就從主前4百年到主後4百年 it become the 400 B.C. to 400 A.D.. 所以希臘正統古典文化到 亞里斯多德差不多結束了 So classic Greek culture, when it comes to Aristotle, almost ended. 最高的3個人就是 蘇格拉底、亞里斯多德跟柏拉圖 The highest 3 minds are Socrates, Aristotle and Plato, 但是泛希臘就不是這樣簡單 But not with the Hellenics, 因為許多的文化已經開展出去了 because many of the cultures expanded, 結果泛希臘就跟 古希臘正統的古典文化不一樣 So the Hellenics as compare the classical Greece, It's different. 正統的、古典的希臘文化 The orthodox, classical Greek culture, 很注重天文學 they emphasis also astronomy, 還有政治學 and also politics, 還有物質學 and also physics, 所以所有的最正宗的學問 他們都研究了 so they study all the orthodox discipline of studies. 但到了泛希臘的時代 While it comes to the pan-Greek of the Hellenics, 很注重人生哲學 they emphasis on the philosophy of life. 那麼人生哲學就分成三大派 And the philosophy of life has three big schools. 第一派叫作Epicureanism One is called Epicureanism, 就是保羅在雅典 跟以彼古羅的學士討論的那一派 and that was in Athens, Paul was discussing with the school, that's Epicureanism. Epicureanism的鼻祖叫作Epicurus (伊比鳩魯, Ἐπίκουρος, 341~279 BC) Epicurus is the founder of Epicurism. 這個人是過一個很簡單的生活 This person led a very simple life, 他喝的就是清水 and also clean water that he drink, 吃的就是麵包 and the bread that he took. 穿的是簡單的衣服 and also put the simple cloth. 人家問他說為什麼這麼簡單？ They asked him how things can be so simple, 人生越複雜 越多煩惱 The more complicated life is the more trouble that he have, 人生越簡單就越快樂 the more simple you lead your life, the more happy you are. 喔 所以你的意思是說 人生的目的是尋求快樂嗎？ So then your purpose of life meaning that seek of happiness. 他說 是啊 Oh, yes. 我們要快樂 We want to be happy, 就是要過簡單的生活 lead a simple life then. 這是人生的智慧 This is the wisdom of life. 你越麻煩、越複雜 以後你越多頭痛 The more complicated, the more headache you are. 而且如果你能夠過一個快樂的生活 If you can lead a happy life, 你人生就很輕鬆 then you'll be good in your life. 怎麼樣才能真正輕鬆？ Now how can lead an easy going life? 你要與大自然和諧 Then you have to be in harmony with the nature, 你要與鄰居和諧 And be in harmony with the neighbours, 你要與自己和諧 be in harmony with your own self, 你要與所有的人和諧 be in harmony with all people, Living in a harmony that is a secret of happiness. 我們能夠過這個很和諧的生活 這是我們生命的秘訣 與自然和諧 We are in harmony with the nature, 與人和諧 in harmony with people, 與自己和諧 in harmony with our own self, 這就是快樂的根源 this is the source of happiness. 所以很多人想 這樣我這個人生這麼不快樂 我要去找他 So that people say, I don't feel happy in my life, I want to go and seek after him. 所以跑到以彼古羅面前來的人 He go to the Epicurus, 他們就把他叫作一個名稱 叫作 救主 and they will call him the savior. 這個希臘文叫作 σωτήρ 我們講救恩論Soteriology 就從這個字來的 Soteriology has come from this word. 當然從基督教的聖經來看 只有耶穌基督才是救主 From our Bible, of course, only Christ is the Savior. 所以他是當時第一個 建立心理治療所的一個哲學家 He was the one who established the first center of psychological healing. 你苦苦悶悶為什麼呢？ How com you do not feel happy? 因為我跟我的媳婦常常吵 Because I quarrel much time with my daughter-in-law. 你們吵什麼呢？ What are you quarrelling on? 因為媳婦佔有我的孩子我不甘願 Because my daughter-in-law takes away my son, I am not happy. 作人不要這樣 Do not be like that, 女兒大了嫁給他 是他的不是你的 the daughter got married to him, He already belongs to her now, not yours. 他就給他解釋、給他解釋 and explain to them, 這個是歷史上第一次 psychological counseling This is the first psychological counseling in the world, 心理治療是從那裡開始的 and psychological healing right here comes from, 所以人家叫他做救主 people called him a savior. 那麼他的生活就快樂、快樂 So his life stay happiness, happiness, 後來這一派傳來傳去 越傳越亂 they become a mess after they preaching and preaching, 有的人說 既然人生找快樂 我要去找女人才快樂 so now seeking happiness is the purpose of life, I am going to find women. 我只要放縱情慾 荒宴醉酒才快樂 I let go my lust, 所以這Hedonism變成一個 用物質跟邪欲來充實的快樂 就變質了 So become Hedonism, they become materialistic way of finding happiness. 但是這是一種人生的代表 But this represented one kind of life, 作人需要快樂 now we need to be happy in life. 保羅說呢 Paul said, 希利尼人的這一派 for this group of the Pan-Greek, 我欠他們的債 希利尼的第二派是什麼？ And the second school of the Pan-Greek, 叫作Stoic（斯多亞派） Stoic Stoic是從Stoa這個字來的 Stoic this word, Stoa是一個走廊 Stoa is a corridor, 在那個走廊下面 常常有哲學家辯論 作人要怎樣才有意思 Under the corridor, actually, the philosophers were debated on how come you have meaning in the life. 那麼其中一個最重要的 叫作Zeno One important one is Zeno. 他說 人要快樂 不是清心寡慾就可以了 If you want to be happy, not just if you lead a simple life, 人要快樂需要有行善、建立功勞 to be happy, you must do good, and establish your own merit. 一定要論道德 You must talk about ethics, 你作人照規矩 you do according to what people demand in law. 你幫助貧窮的人 and those are poor, 你修身養性 then you cultivate your own self, 你作人有道德標準 you have ethical standards, 你要把好的、不好的分開來 you must discern what is good or bad, 那麼這個斯多亞派的人 The Stoic, 他們說這樣的話 戰爭是不對的 then because of that, the war is not right, 所以提倡世界和平 so they want to promote the world peace. 這樣說來 男女要平等 So then must equality with male and female, 不可用男人的暴力欺負女人 we cano't also use the power of the man to force upon the girls, 凡是欺負女人的 就是本身是弱者 if not, you are called the weak one, 而且是邪惡的 and also you are the evil one, 因為你以壯欺弱 你是不知羞恥 because you are the strong side, you press those who are weak. 當你打仗得勝以後 After you win a victory of a war, 你把仇敵抓來的時候 when you capture your enemies, 你不可以把他當作奴隸 you can not treat them as slaves, 古代的社會戰敗的女子 就被搶去作他們的僕人 In the ancient past, those cities be conquered, the ladies become their slaves. 戰敗的男人就綁起來 被販賣作人家庭的奴隸 and the man also became the slaves in the household. 所以很多有錢的人到市場去 So when the rich man go to the market place, 他說我的家 需要幾個粗壯的男人作我的僕人 he said my household need some strong men to be my slaves, 那些肌肉最大的就賣 得最貴 those had big muscles will about fetch more high price. 許多很有錢的人 And those are rich, 已經厭煩自己的妻子 they actually disgusted their own wife, 就在市場上去買女人 so in the market, they buy women, 那麼這些奴隸 all these slaves, 要脫光衣服給人家看 they got to be naked, people will look at them, 哪一個胸圍特別好看 who has good body, 哪一個肌肉特別幼潤的 who has good muscle, 就可以賣貴一點 and the higher price the price, 又老又醜的就不值錢了 but those are old and ugly will not fetch high price. 所以在奴隸市場 So in the slavery market, 在古希臘的社會 In the old ancient Greek society, 羅馬的社會裡面 in the Roman society, 就變成一個風氣 become a kind of trend. 斯多亞派的人說 不可以的 And the Stoic say, you can not do that, 不可以把俘虜當作奴隸 We cannot actually with the captive become the slave, 不可以用人的生命賣金錢 we can not use our life to trade for money, 也不可以對在監牢里的人 行殘暴的動作 and those who are also in the prison, we can not mock to them. 所以他訂了很多很多的道德規條 So they fixed many of ethical rules, 你照著這些道德規條 according to all ethical rules, 你好好作人 you behave yourself, cultivated your own self, 那麼你就才會過快樂的生活 then you can lead a happy life. 這是第二種的人生哲學 that is the second philosophy of life, 所以以彼古羅派 Epicureans, 還有斯多亞派 Stoic, 他們作人有他們的規格 They have their own discipline in life, 有他們的理論 their own theory, 有他們的價值觀 their own sense of value, 有他們行事的風格 and their way of practice. 所以這些人就很滿足自己 And these people are satisfied with themselves, 所以我告訴你 主耶穌以前4百年 400 years before Christ, 到主耶穌以後4百年 400 years after Christ, 那8個世紀裡面 that 8 centuries, 最難信耶穌的就是斯多亞派的人 the Stoic is the most difficult to be converted to the Christ. 因為基督徒傳福音給他們的時候 So when the Christian preach to them, 我們在主里 為主為奴 是合而為一的 because we are in one in Christ, whether you are the slave, or you are not the slave. 在基督裡 是男、是女 是平等的 In Christ, whether the male or the female, you are equal. 他們說 你不必傳我們早就懂了 They said you don't have to preach, because I know it long ago. 所以西方的斯多亞派 So the Stoic in the West, 跟中國人的孔子的思想的那些人 是一樣的 As the Confucius thought in the East, they are the same. 他們感到我們是憑良心做事的 They said we do things according to the method of conscience, 我們是有道德的人 we are ethical, 所以我們為什麼還要相信 你們的耶穌呢？ Why is that we got to believe your Jesus? The Epicureans, 跟斯多亞派 and the Stoic, 他們自滿自足 they are so contented, 他們要追求的快樂 the happiness that they are seeking after, 你們信耶穌的不一定有 and you may not have it as a Christian, 他們說你們有的道德 they said what do you have in this world, 我們也有 we have, 所以你注意 so pay attention, 保羅講這一句話的意思是什麼？ What is the meaning when Paul said this? 無論你的人生哲學是什麼 No matter what philosophy of life you have, 你還是需要耶穌 you still need Jesus. 你以為你有道德嗎？ You thought you are ethical? 你需要基督 But you need Christ, 你以為你這樣就快樂嗎？ You think you have happiness? 你的快樂是假的 Happiness is not the true one, 是暫時的 is the temporary one. 你說基督的永生 You say the Christ-life is an eternal one, 所以除了這兩派以外 but other than this two schools, 還有一派叫作Scepticism there is Scepticism. 懷疑派的人 Scepticism. 懷疑派的人有另外一種哲學 The scepticism also have an other philosophy, 就是我的看法 跟你的看法一定不一樣的 my view as your view is different. 所以你要堅守你的看法 是你的自由 You want to hold strongly to your believe, that's your own thing, 我對你的定義常常懷疑 but to your definition, I'll be sceptical. 你也可以懷疑我 you can be sceptical over my definition, 我自己有自己的看法 I have my own view. 所以這三派 So this three schools, 就是快樂派 Hedonism 行善派 they want to do good, 懷疑派 they want to be sceptical. 就變成當時比較有知識的 社會的三種人生哲學 the three philosophy of life of those are more intellectual in the society. 這些人我也欠他們的債 Paul said, to these people, I am in debt them with the evangelism. 所以我讀這段聖經的時候 So when I'm reading this passage, 我非常佩服保羅 I actually admire Paul, 保羅講這些話的意思是什麼？ When Paul said this, what does it mean? 我已經預備好了 面對社會上各種人的需要 把福音傳給他 I am prepared to preach the Gospel to all the different needs of the people's society. 你多聰明我可以應付你 No matter how intelligent you are, I can meet your need. 你是笨的社會 我還是愛你 Whether you are the foolish society, I love you too, 你是野蠻人、專講武力的 我還是要把福音傳給你 you are the barbarians who preach only by power, I'll preach you Christ. 你希利尼文化不同人生哲學的 複雜社會我都可以應付你 And to the Greek, very complicated philosophy of life in the society, 我讀這節聖經我非常佩服 When I read this passage, I admire Paul. 今天我到世界各地傳道 Today everywhere I go and preach to the World, 我每次解答問題的時候 every time when I answered questions, 有教授的問題 there are questions coming from the professors, 科學家的問題 scientists, 有普通人的問題 ordinary people, 有學生的問題 and those are coming from the students, 我一定要每一題都給他回答 every question I must answer, 這個也變成挑戰我自己要明白 所有不同的人的不同需要 become now a challenge to me to meet the need of different people. 教會的責任是什麼呢？ what is the responsibility of church? 不是專找一些 我們喜歡的人給他傳道 Not to seek after those who we like them and preach to them. 你要應付各種不同的人的需要 but to meet the need of different people. 我從1961年開始 Since 1961, 在我的聚會裡面有解答問題 in my meeting, I have Q and A section. 然後每1年大概接受6千到1萬個問題 And in a year, I receive questions about 6000 to 10 thousand questions. 雖然每1年所能解答的不到3千個 even though only about 3000, I can answer in a year, 很多問題沒有辦法回答 many questions I can't answer, 因為時間不夠 because of the time limited, 但至少應付了 社會各階層的需要 but at least I meet the different classes in the society, 我們要傳福音要請人家來 信耶穌 信耶穌 信耶穌上天堂 不信耶穌下地獄 這個叫作傳福音嗎？ We can not just preach the gospel to say, you believe in Jesus you go to heaven, you don't believe, you go to hell. 你知道今天人受 Stephen Hawking影響 你怎麼傳道？ Now when people are been influenced by Stephen Hawking, how would you preach them? 今天受共產主義思想毒化的 你要怎麼回答？ Those are poisoned by the communism, how are you going to preach to them? 今天那些堅守存在主義哲學的人 你怎麼回答？ Those give formed in the Existentialism, how would you preach to them? 今天在共產主義下面的思想 你怎樣應付？ and those thinking they come under the communism, how are you going to do with that? 今天接受資本主義毒化的思想 怎麼應付？ Those are poisoned by the Capitalism, 當你面對回教徒的時候你怎麼回答？ When you face the Muslims, How are you going to answer them? 你怎麼對他講三位一體 他就是認為你神經病 3怎麼會1 1怎麼會3 You preach them about trinity, they said you are mentally wrong, how can 3 become 1, 1 become 3. 你對他說道成肉身 他說你第二個神經病 上帝怎麼會變成人 人怎麼是上帝？ and to the in connection of Christ, how can God turn to be a flesh, and a flesh becomes a God. 如果我們不知道他們的思想是什麼 If we do not know their thought pattern, 我們就不知道怎麼把我們所信的道 跟他們所懷疑的真理 怎麼樣能夠面對去 你沒有辦法去傳福音 what the preaching they re-have as to compare to the thought they doubt, how are they going to meet? 我看許多教會 訓練人佈道那些的課程 根本膚淺到一個地步 根本可有可無 I see that many of the training in the church, training how to evangelize, is so simple and so shallow. 今天我們看見許多福音派的人 根本不知道世界的問題在哪裡 還自己迷信答案都在聖經裡面 We see that evangelical, They don't even know the question of the world, but he says all the answers are in the Bible. 我們相信問題答案都在聖經 We believe of course all the answer is in the Bible, 我們相信耶穌可以解決一切問題 We believe that the Christ can solve all problems, 但是他們的問題在哪裡我們不知道 but we didn't know where are their problems. 我們沒有深入研究 We didn't study well the problem, 我們不明白我們的對象 的困難在哪裡 we didn't know the difficulty of our opponents. 所以我們講道、開佈道會 都在無的放矢 So also when we preach, we do not have the target when we shoot arrows. 我們以為我講了一兩篇道 我們就可以感動人 We preach one or two sermons, we thought that we can touch the heart of people. 你知道為什麼 你對別人講道比較容易 對自己家人講道難的不得了？ Do you know why is that to preach others is easy, but to preach people at home is difficult? 因為學會了 用開佈道會的氣氛領人歸主 Because you know how to make an atmosphere in an evangelize meetings. 但是我告訴你 But I tell you, 那些真正有頭腦 很難被克服的人 你怎麼傳都很難傳進去 those truly are intellect and high minded is difficult for you to preach to them. 這就是為什麼尼哥底母見了耶穌 談了整個晚上 沒有告別 回去也沒有表示接受主 And that's why Nicodemus, after talking to Jesus Christ for the whole night, when he returned, he didn't show that he wants to believe in Jesus. 但是那個撒瑪利亞的婦人 跟她傳一下子 她就信主了 But the Samaria woman, just a moment when Jesus preach to her, she believed. 而且馬上影響很多人歸向主 and immediately she influenced a lot of people to come to the Christ. 那些講膚淺的道 應付下層社會好像很有果效的人 不要以為聖靈跟你同在、你大有能力 Those who preach shallow gospel then turn people to Christ, you thought that the Holy Spirit is working with you. 那些文化鉅子很難領受福音 你傳了幾年才一個信主 你不要以為你沒有果效 Those Giant of the culture, you preach to them maybe a year, he doesn't want turn to the Christ, you do not think that you have no result in preaching. 中國的潮洲 You know in Chaozhou in China, 最先信主的就是 吳恩溥的五代大祖先 and that is the fifth generation back of the reverend Wú'ēnpǔ. (吳恩溥) 那個時候2個英國人 Two English man, 在潮洲的地方 when they come to Chaozhou, 戴著中國人的帽子 and also wearing the Chinese hat, 留著滿清的辮子 and also with the pigtail, 穿著中國人的服裝 put on the Chinese garment, 在路上傳道 on the street they preach, 孩子們就說 洋鬼子 洋鬼子 藍眼睛 大鼻子 滾走吧！ and people who said that you are the western devil, western devil, western devil. 那2個洋鬼子 嘿嘿 我們好看不好看？ The western devil said, do we look good to you? 然後就被邀請到一個家裡面去 then they were invited there, 也就是吳恩溥的五代大祖 and that was the fifth generation 你們來這裡做什麼呢？ 我們要跟中國人談『道』的事情 We want to talk about something of the Word with the Chinese people. 什麼『道』呢？ 你們孔子所講的『道』 and what your Confucius said about the Word. 你們老子所講的『道』 and what is the Word preach by Laozi. 這幾個中國人 就請他到家裡面來了 And so these few Chinese invited them, 他談了5天4夜 They talked for five days and four nights, 除了大小便、吃飯 other than eating and go to the toilet, 趴在那裡休息 and rest a limit. 一直辯論中國古人所談的道 they debate about the ancient logos. 到了5天以後 Five days later, 吳恩傅的五代大祖就說 我要信耶穌 and then the great-great-grandfather said, I believe. 你約翰福音的道是比我們想得更深 The Logos in John is deeper than what the logos we preach. 兩個信主 Two turned to the Christian, 以後家族就討厭他們 and then their whole family hated them, 這樣辛苦才得到1個果子 so difficult before they get one mind. 今天我們以為去參加佈道訓練班 一下子就變成大佈道家了 Today we thought that going to the evangelize meeting training, we can become a good evangelist. 我這一生講道比別人更複雜 In my whole life, I preach the more complicated message. 但我告訴你 上帝用我使許多知識分子歸向上帝 but God used this message to turn many intelligent to the Christ. 因為我們不是作膚淺的工作 Because we are not doing work of shallowness, 我們真材實料 we have true facts. 如果泥土層硬的 你要鬆土 If it is hard soil, you must loosen it first. 鬆土的時間可能比撒種 多50倍的時間 To loosen it, maybe it takes 50 more times than preaching, 但是你鬆土以後再撒了種子 就不容易丟失 but after you loosen the earth, you plant the seed, it will not be easy to lose it. 我用這些的經驗來看聖經的時候 with these all experiences, I view the Bible, 我深深佩服保羅 I truly admire Paul. 保羅把野蠻人、智慧人 還有化外人 還有希利尼人一同並列出來 whether he is barbarian, the Greek, the wise, the fool, Paul laid them to the front. 他要講的3件事 three things he wanted to say, First, 沒有一種人不需要耶穌 there is no a single class can go without Jesus. 基督的道足夠應付世界上 任何一種人的需要 The Word of Christ can meet the need of all kind of people in the world. 第三 The third, 我是欠債者 我要負起這個責任 I am the one who in debt to all these people. 今天我們在華福開會 Tonight we are meeting in CCCOWE, 讓我們把這個精神帶回家去吧 let us bring this spirit back home, 認識我們的對象是誰 to know who are our opponents? 1百年以前 100 years ago, 你跟中國人傳道 不必提共產主義 When you preach to a Chinese, you don't have to mention about the Communism. 但是現在不一樣 But now, it's different. 現在跟50年前又不一樣了 and now compare with 50 years ago, it's different. 30年以前 30 years ago, 凡是從中國大陸到美國去的 those who come from China to USA, 他們信主的攔阻 and they are obstructed to believe in Christ, 進化論跟無神論 Evolutionism and also Atheism 在50年、1百年以前 but 50 or 100 years years ago, 他們信耶穌的攔阻 the obstruct of believe in Christ, 是帝國主義的大炮 成為帝國主義的先鋒 and that is actually the imperialism to become their hinders. 所以每一個時代變遷 So every age changes, 每一個時代的需要不同 the need of every age is different, 每一個時代對傳道者的挑戰 是不一樣的 and every age, the challenge coming to the preachers are different, 當我1970年第一次到台灣的時候 in 1970, the first time when I go to Taiwan, 在台北重慶南路所賣的書 多數是存在主義 存在主義 in the Chongqing South Road, all the sell books are existentialism. 沙特、海德格 Sartre (1905-1980), Heidegger (1889-1976) 齊克果、卡謬 and also Kierkegaard (1813-1855), Camus (1913-1960) 都是這些書 all the books by these people, 印尼的傳道人連名字都沒有聽過 and the preacher of the Indonesia, don't even heard the name. 買書看了幾面就打瞌睡 and also turn the books read a few pages and they stumbled. 裡面寫的東西 什麼東西懂都不懂 and you can't even understand what they are writing. 我買了4箱的書 I bought four boxes of books, 我好好查考 and I study and study, 我好好思想 I also think over it, 我要明白什麼東西 攔阻台灣的青年信耶穌 and I want to know what are the things that obstruct the people of Taiwan. 原來沙特的影響 在他們裡面影響這樣深 The influence of Sartre is on them, 齊克果的思想影響他們這樣深 influenced by Kierkegaard. 然後我在上帝面前禱告 And I pray to God, 求主給我能力 God give me power, 不但把福音傳開 not only preach the gospel, 更把他們的困難除掉 also remove their obstructs. 所以每一天晚上 Every night, 講完道解答問題到1點到12點半 after preaching and Q and A, I will go to my room at 1am. 我答到他們才願回家 end before they want to dismiss. 當台大的學生回到宿舍時 So when the student come to NTU, 台大的宿舍關門了 and National Taiwan University, they close the gate, 他們爬牆進去 they climbed over the fence, 變成當時一件很特別的事情 and became a very special event at the time. 當時我傳道辛苦得不得了 the time when I preached, I felt so much heavy. 面對的問題多得不得了 I faced a lot of questions. 因為他們的頭腦 有了撒但給他們的營壘 Because their mind also has fortress coming from Satan. 我們要攻破仇敵的營壘 We are going to destroy the fortress of the enemies, 把人的心意奪回 captures people's mind, 歸向上帝 to come back to God. 這些知識分子信耶穌是很難的 all these intelligent for them to believe Christ is difficult, but praise God, 現在在台灣 Now in Taiwan, 已經有幾十個教授 是2、30年以前聽我講道信主 現在在教書 a few tens of these professor now teaching in the university, actually they heard me at that time. 在大陸也是如此 The same thing in Mainland China. 每一次我在美國講道 Every time when I preached in USA, 有人說 唐牧師12年前你來講道我信主 there are people who said, 12 years ago you preached and I believed. 20年前你來講道我不要走到台前 過了幾年我才自己信主了 20 years ago, you preached and ordered the call, I didn't come to the front, but after that, I come. 有一個共產黨員 There is also a Communist member, 他的太太是基督徒 his wife is a Christian, 勸他到芝加哥來聽我講道 Exhort him to come to Chicago to listen to me. 聽了一天以後 After a day, 大發脾氣 he got so mad, 妳為什麼帶我來聽這個人講道？ Why does you bring me to hear this people? 他太太說 他講得不好嗎？ Isn't he that he preach well? 他講得很好啊！ Very good that he preach, 那為什麼你生氣？ Why is that you get angry? 他在一天裡面把我卅多年建立的 思想架構全部給我打破了 Because in one single day, he destroyed all the thought pattern I've built in 30 years. 我現在不知道怎麼活下去 I don't know how to live now. 太太勸他 再聽嘛 再聽嘛 The wife said, well, you continue to listen. 聽到第5天 Until the fifth day, 當我要到飛機場的時候 When I want to go to the airport, 有1個人跑出來 there was a person who run, 唐牧師聚會完了我要跟你談話 你跑到哪裡去了？ Reverend Tong, I want to talk to you after the meeting, where do you go? 我說現在上飛機 I said that I am going to aboard the plane. 因為晚上我在別的地方講道 Because I'll be preach in other place tonight. 他說我老實告訴你 He said, truly I tell you, 我第1天聽你很生氣 The first day listened to you, I got mad, 後來我繼續再聽 but I continue to listen, 聽到最後一天 the last day, 我要告訴你 I want to tell you, 我現在打開我的心門接受耶穌 I open my heard, and I'll accept Jesus. 你想傳福音是容易的嗎？ You think it is easy to preach? 好像容易 Looks easy. 傳福音是難的嗎？ Is it difficult? 好像很難 Looks difficult. 但是保羅說 But Paul said, No matter the barbarians, no matter the wise, 無論希利尼人 no matter the Greek, 無論是愚拙人 no matter the fool, I am in debt to them. 盼望教會要傳福音 We hope that the church want to preach, 我們從頭開始 start from the beginning, 好好預備自己 prepare ourselves, 知道我們的神給我們的真理 何等的偉大 knowing that the truth that God give us is so great and mighty. 也給我們認識我們時代中間 不同的人的需要何等複雜 that we knew how complicated they need of the age is. 然後一個一個 把他們帶到主的面前來 one by one, you bring them to Christ, Mu dear brothers and sisters, 務要傳道 you must surly preach, surly must preach, 因為人需要上帝的道 because people need God, 人需要上帝的道 people need God's Word. 今天我坐飛機的時候 Today when I come to the plane, 我旁邊坐一個小孩子很可愛 there was a small boy sit by my side and is lovable. 眼睛大大的 big eyes, 才9個月 nine months 我一伸手他就伸出來跟我握手 I stretched the hand, also he stretched the hand, 我要下飛機以前 before I alighted, 我就問他的爸爸 I asked the father, 我說你信主了嗎？ Have you believe in Christ? 他說我太太信主 He said, my wife is. 那你還沒有信耶穌？ What about yourself? 他說我太太信耶穌 He said, my wife is a believer, 我說你信耶穌沒有？ Have you believe in Christ, I asked. 他說我太太信了 My wife believe in Jesus, he said. 講來講去太太信了 He said, the wife, the wife, the wife. 他看到我跟他的孩子很好 He saw that I am good to the baby, 他說你住在Bali嗎？ Do you stay in Bali? 我說不是 I said, No. 那你是住在哪裡？ Where do you stay? 我說住在雅加達 I said, in Jakarta. 但我每一個禮拜到台北1天 But every week, I stay one day in Taipei. 啊！你每個禮拜到台北1天？ Every week you go to Taipei? 你作什麼生意每個禮拜要去台北？ What kind of business are you in? 每個禮拜我去講道1天 第2天就回到印尼 I said, I go to Taiwan to preach one day, the next day I come back to Jakarta. 每個禮拜坐飛機到台北去講道？ So every week you spend a day in Taipei to preach, and come back? 他太太就站起來了 and the wife stood up, 喔 你是傳道人？ Are you a preacher? 我說是，我是牧師 I said, Yes, I am a pastor. 你在哪裡講道？ Where are you preaching? 我說我每個禮拜在懷恩堂 and every Sunday I will be preaching in Grace Baptist Church. 你每個禮拜飛1次到台灣 不是很辛苦嗎？ Isn't it very difficult for you to fly every single week to Taipei? 我說不會啊 我每個禮拜天 Every Sunday, 在雅加達講2次 就坐飛機到新加坡 下午、晚上再講2次 in Jakarta, I preach two sections, I board on plant, go to Singapore, preach another two sections on Sunday. 禮拜一跟那邊的教會開會以後 就坐飛機到吉隆坡再講 and on Monday morning, I discussing with the deacons there, and then I go back to Kuala Lumpur, 禮拜二再到香港講 and on Tuesday, I go to Hong Kong, 禮拜三再到台北講 on Wednesday, I go to Taipei. 他們嚇死了 They were frightened. 你幾歲啊？ How old are you? 我17歲 I am 17. 把它轉過來就對了 Turn around. 我71歲了 I am 71. 喔喔喔你是作牧師的 You are a pastor. 他說你還用iPad 你很現代化喔！ You have iPad, you are very modern. 那一句話我想 他以為牧師都是很笨的 and maybe in his mind is that all pastors are fools. 我這iPad裡面 In iPad, 全本聖經都在裡面 and the whole Bible is there, 還有1百多個交響樂在裡面 and 100 of symphonies in there, 還有很多的資訊在裡面 many information are there. 我不是太落後的牧師 I am not backward. 所以他覺得 誒這個牧師不一樣 Well this pastor is different. 你在台北什麼地方講？ Taipei, where do you preach? 我在台大對面懷恩堂那邊講道 in Grace Baptist Church. 喔那是很大的禮拜堂 Oh, that is a big church. 我說不太大 I said, not too big. 我們印尼很多比那更大的禮拜堂 In Indonesia, there are many churches bigger than that. 這樣我每一個禮拜 還要對6千個人講道 So every every single week, I preach to 6,000 people. 當你面對這種 自以為有學問的人的時候 So when you face these people who thought they are good learned. 你不必自卑感 Don't have inferiority complex, 因為你可以應付他們 because you can meet their need. 這些人我都欠債 Paul said, all these people, 什麼意思呢？ what does he mean by that? 無論哪一種人 No matter what class of people, 都需要耶穌的福音 He needs Jesus. 第二樣 上帝的道 God's Word, 可以應付每一種人的需要 can meet the need of all different people. 第三樣 我作為傳道人 As a preacher, 我預備自己給每一個人作見證 I prepare myself to bear testimony to all kind of people. 今天 Tonight, 你願意作這樣的人嗎 Are you willing to be this kind of people? 你願意預備自己 Do you want to prepare yourself, 供應世界的需要 to meet the need of the World? 你願意瞭解別人 That you want to understand others, 知道他們的思想背景 to know their thought pattern, 知道他們的心靈需要 to know their need in hearts? 求主給我們力量 May God strengthen us, 為福音的緣故 For the sake of the gospel, 把人帶到上帝面前來 bring people to Christ, 領人歸主 bring people to Christ. 這世界需要耶穌基督 This world need Christ Jesus, 神要我們去傳道 God want us to preach, 我們無論得時不得時 No matter it is good season or out of season, We must preach. 你肯不肯 Are you willing? 在主的面前 Before God, 對主說 you tell the Lord, 主啊！若是祢肯用我 If you want to use me, 我在這裡 here am I, 我要奉獻作傳道 I want to dedicate myself to be a preacher. 這樣我們開福音的會議 The we have this kind of gospel meeting, 就是有意思的 then that's meaning. 千萬不要開會又回去 Do not just attend the conference, then go back 再開會再回來 and the meeting, come again. 這是福音會議 This is a gospel meeting. 我們就要為福音獻上 you have to dedicate yourselves. 福音會議 For the sake of the gospel conference, 我們就要經歷福音的大能 We have to experience the power of the gospel, 認識福音的能力 to know the power of the gospel, 帶出福音的信息 and bring also the message of gospel, 尋找傳福音的對象 to seek after the opponent of preaching, 把人帶到主的面前來 使他們歸向上帝 so they will come back to God. 你願意嗎？ 54年8個月以前 54 years and 8 months ago, 神呼召我 God call to me, 那時候一個17歲的孩子 I was 17 then, 對主說 主啊！我在這裡 telling God, Lord, here am I. 求你使用我 Use me. 那一天我的眼淚 濕透我整個衣服前面的地方 That night actually, my tears rolled out and wet my whole body. 主啊!我若不奉獻 Lord, if I do not dedicate myself, 就算了吧 so be it. 我如果奉獻 If I will dedicate myself, 我就一直到死不收回 忠心作你的僕人 until I die, I will not retrieve, I'll be a faithful servant. 上帝就這麼引導 God guide me so, 半個多世紀就這樣過去 then 50 years just pass, 神的靈還在我身上 God's Spirit is upon me. 今天我奉主的名對你說 Tonight in the name of the Lord, I tell you, 你也可以傳福音 you can preach gospel too, 你也可以順服上帝 you can also be obedient to God. 有哪一個人對主說 Any one who tell God, 主啊 我在這裡 Lord, here am I, 請差遣我？ Send me. 你願意嗎 你不是回答我 You are not responding to me, 回答你的主 but to your Lord. 我們低頭禱告 Let's bow head and pray. 當我們大家低頭閉眼睛的時候 As you bow head and close your eyes, 有哪一個人 any one, 你說主啊 you say Lord, 我也願意 I am also willing, 把自己奉獻給你 dedicate myself to you. 照著你的感動 According to your touches, 獻上自己 dedicating myself, 作傳道的工作 求主接納我 Lord, take me. 今天晚上 我願意奉獻 I am willing to dedicate myself, to be a preacher. 有這樣的人 This kind of people, 請你把手舉起來 just raise your hand, 有哪一個人？ an yone? 感謝上帝 感謝上帝 感謝上帝 praise God, praise God, praise God, 感謝上帝 感謝上帝 praise God, praise God, praise God. 還有哪一個人 Any one? 你說 主啊 我也肯 You say Lord, I am willing too, 我願意奉獻作傳道 我要為你禱告 I want to pray for you, 還有這樣的人 this kind of people, 還有哪一個人 感謝主 any one else, praise God. 感謝主 感謝主 praise God, praise God. 如果有人受了感動 If any one is touched by God. 我奉主的名請你順服祂 In the name of God, I want you to be obedient. 現在 Now, 請你把手舉起來 還有哪一個人 raise your hand, any one else? Praise God, any one else? 沒有人勉強 no one force you, 我們甘心情願 but willingly, 順服主 to be obedient to God. 對主說 我要奉獻 tell the Lord I am giving myself. 現在我給你最後的機會 I give you the last chance. 有哪一個人願意奉獻作傳道 Anyone willing to dedicate yourself to be a preacher? 今天順服主的呼召 Tonight you'll obedient the calling of God, 問第二個問題 Second question, 有人你說 我很懼怕 You say I am frightened, 所以我知道我有感動 I know I am touched by God, 我怕弄錯了 but I am afraid I am mistaken, 我請你為這個事情懇切禱告 and for this thing, I want you to pray earnestly, 若是需要 你禁食禱告 if it does needed, you fast and pray, 真心禱告 truly you pray, 照著神的旨意清楚引導你 until God guide you so clearly. 你也把手舉起來 also you raise your hand, 還有哪一個人？ any one? praise God, Any one else? 若是沒有 If not, 我就不再延長時間 I wouldn't extend the time. 我請今天所有舉手的人 Tonight, all those who raise hands, 已經肯定的 make up your mind, 或者要好好禱告的 or you want to pray well, 請剛才舉手的人 those who raise hand just now, 都站起來 you stand up, 走到前頭來 come forward, 現在出來 now excel, 現在離開你位子出來 now excel, come forward, 我們走到上帝面前來 come forward before God, 十字架 永是我的榮耀 我眾罪都洗清潔 唯靠耶穌寶血 （再唱） （還有哪一個人） （你說主啊我也願意） （那麼請你站起來 走到前頭） （奉獻做傳道的工作） 無論哪一個人 從後面 從前面 從兩邊上面 離開你的位置 一同走到主的面前來 wherever you are, leave your seat and come to God. Now excel, 神的愛感動你 God's love constraint you, 神的呼召臨到你 His calling coming to you, 神的靈在你心中工作 God's Spirit is working on you, 你說 主 我願意 you say Lord I am willing. 那給你最後一次的機會 The last opportunity, 我們唱2次以後 we'll sing twice, 我們就不再呼召了 we'll end the calling. 現在我們大家再唱十字架2次 十字架 十字架 （站起來唱） 我們大家仍舊站立 remain standing, 我們低頭恭敬在主的面前 bow head before God reverentially, 我們請所有的人跟著我禱告 everyone pray after me. 親愛的主 我感謝祢 Dear Lord, I thank You, 祢愛我 You love me, 祢拯救我 You save me, 祢差遣耶穌基督 You sent Jesus Christ, 到世界上來 to come to the world, 為我的罪被釘十字架 for my sin, You were crucified on the cross, 受盡痛苦 You bear all sufferings, 祢常經憂患 You've gone through sufferings, 祢為我受審判 also justified for me, 為我被定罪 for crucified for myself, 為我接受上帝的忿怒 and accept the wrath of God for me 使我成為蒙恩的人 and become the one who is blessed. 今天我在你的面前 Tonight I stand before You, 我感謝贊美祢 I thank You and praise You, 因為祢的愛臨到我 Your love come to me, 祢的恩臨到我 Your grace come to me, 祢大能的手拯救我 Your powerful hand save me. 我今天屬於祢 Tonight I belong to You, 我永遠屬於祢 forever I belong to You, 我願意把祢的恩傳開 that I will preach Your grace, 把祢的道傳開 preach Your Word, 把祢的十字架高舉 by lift up Your cross, 把別人帶到祢的面前 求主拯救我 Christ save me, 求主施恩 Lord have mercy on me, 求主使用我 Lord use me, 聽我的禱告 listen to my prayer. 現在我為你們禱告 親愛的天父 我為今天走到前頭來 願意把自己奉獻給你的人 交在祢的手裡 使祢的恩、祢 的愛 用祢的聖靈呼召我們 用祢的道感動我們 用祢的愛吸引我們到祢的面前來 主啊 祢所定的旨意 求主自己成全 因為祢是動善工 成全善工的上帝 祢是阿拉法 祢是俄梅戛 我們感謝 我們讚美祢 更求主保守我們走一條 從始至終順服祢的道路 因為祢是為我們信心創始成終的基督 我們感謝 我們讚美祢 當我們軟弱的時候 求祢扶助我們 當我們忘記的時候 求主提醒我們 主啊 當我們偏行己路的時候 祢用祢的杖 祢的竿把我們拐回來 讓我們在祢的面前重新奉獻自己 走在祢的道路中間 主啊 祢的恩賜 祢的選召是永不後悔的 求主賜福憐憫我們 給我們在今天以後 我們知道我們的生命是屬於祢的 祢就與我們同在 直到永遠 感謝讚美 求主垂聽 我們在祢面前如此仰望、祈求 是奉主耶穌基督得勝的名求的