主禱文 - 第01講

主阿,求祢今天從祢的寶座發出亮光 照耀我們的心 使我們的思想 因為祢聖靈的引導 可以進入真理 享受豐盛的奧秘 使我們對主禱文的意義 有更深的信仰,更深的領悟 奉耶穌基督的聖名求地,阿們 Amen 我們今天開始 一連講主禱文的信息 We now start a series of Lord's prayer 為什麼這個叫做主禱文呢? Why is it called the Lord's prayer? 因為這是主耶穌親自教導的禱告詞 For it's a prayer taught personally by Jesus Christ 禱告需要教導嗎? Do you need to be taught to pray? 禱告的詞句需要篩選嗎? Should you filter the words? 如果需要 用什麼標準來選禱告的詞呢? If we do, how do we decide what standard to use? 我相信很自然的,所有宗教的人 都在禱告 I think all religious people pray 因為沒有禱告 就不能組成一個宗教 If you do not pray you can not be a religion 但是我再問一個問題 But I ask another question 所有宗教的禱告 是誰教導他們講出來的呢? And who taught these other religions to pray? 都是很自然的流露 They are natural products 就是他們有什麼,他們就講出來 Whatever you think of, you pray 為什麼人禱告呢? And why would we pray? 因為人發現自己的有限 Because we discover we are finite 所以走到走投無路的時候 And so when you can not find a solution 我們就需要把我們痛苦把它唸出來 You want to tell of your pain 我需要有另外一個方面 可以解決我們的困難 And you want a solution from beyond 所以許多禱告的動機 是從困境、從逼迫、從貧窮、從疾病 從最困難的人生陰暗面產生出來的 And prayer produced because your pain your suffering, your illness, your diffcuties in life 而世界上沒有一個人沒有困難 And all of us encounter difficulties 沒有一個人沒有疾病 All of us get sick 沒有一個人沒有黑暗的日子 There is not seen a person without darkness 所以人一定會禱告 So we would surely pray 當一個人禱告的時候,要向誰禱告? But to whom should we pray? 我們要向一個比我們更有能力的 We pray to someone more powerful 能解決我們問題的 Who can solve our problem 超自然的 A supernatural 可能是個無限的 Perhaps infinite 向祂發出禱告 And we pray to him 那麼這兩件事配合起來 And when we put the two things together 表示我需要信仰 It means I need faith 因為有一位神可以聽我的禱告 For there is a God who would listen to me 我在有限界裡面 I am finite 祂在無限界裡面 But he is infinite 所以當我遇到限制困難的時候 我向祂發出我裡面的需要 And so when I constrained I call upon him for help 這樣就變成禱告生活 這樣形成起來了 And that's how you have a prayer life 幾乎全世界沒有一個民族 是沒有禱告的 And almost all people in the world would pray 沒有一個民族,是沒有宗教的 You can not find a race without a religion 因為神造人的時候 就把人造在與祂永存 相對的暫時性裡面 Because when God created human beings he created temporal and related to God 所以上帝是永恆的 And God is eternal 我們在肉身中間是暫時的 Physically we are temporal 但是我們的肉身不等於我們的全部 But we are not configured by the physical 所以上帝把永恆的本質放在我們的裡面 And God place essence of the eternity inside of us 我們在永恆跟暫時的交界的中間 And we are at the crossroad of the eternal and temporal 我們發現限制是一個事實 And we discover there are limitations 我們發現矛盾是一個掙扎 Then irony is struggles 所以宗教的動機就要 衝破限制、脫離矛盾 And so religion wants to break through all these constrains 因為人都會禱告 Therefore we all can pray 那這樣的禱告 到底是不是神所喜悅的禱告呢? But are these prayer pleaseing to God? 禱告的人根本不問這個問題 The person who pray will not ask question like that 我只要向一個神明禱告 All I need to do is pray to a god 祂如果能夠應驗我要的 And if he can give me what I want 祂可以賜下我求的 And give me what I ask 我就把祂當作我們的神 Then I will pray to him 如果祂不能聽我的禱告 But if he should fail 完全沒有力量 No power 我就丟棄這種神 Then I get rid of him 所以在這樣的狀況中間 And in this situation 人變成主動淘汰神明的主體 We become the one that would get rid of Gods 人變成主動選擇神明的主體 And the initiative is with us and we choose 所以神在這樣的地位中間 是一個被動的地位 In this case the Gods are like objects 那我們就照著這樣的習慣 過了我們宗教的生活 And we live life like that habitually 所以嚴格的說起來 人是很可憐很可憐的 Strictly speaking we are in a very sad state 當我們求的時候 When we call 我們盼望全能者可以解決我的問題 We want a solution from the almighty 所以我們一定要產生一個有全能者 成為我信仰的對象 So you must have this concept that he is almighty 但是這個全能者是管制我的 But this almighty would rule over me 只有在禱告的中間我要管制祂 But in prayer, I want to rule over him 祢是全能的 You are almighty 所以祢醫治我 So you must heal me You are all powerful 祢要帶領我經過困境 You must deliver me 祢要解決我貧窮的問題 Solve my poverty 因為祢是全能的 Because you are the almighty 祢可以做這個事情 You can do this 現在聽我的話,替我做吧 Now listen to what I say 一方面禱告的人相信上帝的全能 So on the one hand we believe God can do all things 一方面盼望他自己的能力來捆綁上帝 來利用上帝 成全他對全能者的要求 But the other hand we want to make use of God to fulfill our needs 所以這是很可怕的事情 And this is most horrified 我們看見今天許多的宗教 香火會盛起來 In many religion they become very prosperous 因為他們認為他們的神明聽了他們的禱告 Because they think they are dignity will listen to them 所以他們為了感恩的意思 所以他們就建廟、建堂 來榮耀他們的神 I need an appreciation for that you build temples 那這樣的事是宗教常看見的事 You see this commonly in religions 但是在基督教裡面是完全不同的 But Christianity is different 因為在所有宗教裡面 Among all religions 只有在基督教告訴我們 我們應當怎樣禱告 Only Christianity tells us how to pray 我們向誰禱告 And to whom should we pray 我們用怎樣的態度來禱告 And what's the altitude we must have 而這些禱告就在聖經的記載 從亞當直到世界末日 很多偉大的禱告詞,記載下來 And the Bible record many great prayers from Adam to the end of the world 也告訴我們,許多神聽了禱告 所做的事情 And also tell us how God response to our prayer 自從道成肉身,耶穌降生以後 After Jesus Christ came in the flesh 祂就講:「你們禱告,應當這麼說…」 (參 太6:9) He said:「this is the way you should pray…」 意思就是說,我們常常禱告 不應當禱告的話語 In other words there are many times we pray needlessly 需要很大的糾正 We need to be corrected 我個人也感覺到教會的復興 需要從禱告的正統來復興起 Personally I think the church can be revived when the prayer is revived 因為如果我們的禱告不是不正統的 If our prayers are not orthodox 我們就像外邦人那樣祈求 Like a gentile we called upon the God 耶穌在馬太福音第六章這一段裡面 In the passage in Matthew chapter six 先提到你們禱告的時候 Jesus Christ first said:「when you pray 不要站在路口 Do not stand on the roadside 你不要站在高台 Or on the synagogue 因為這些人禱告 盼望別人聽見他們怎麼禱告 These people pray and they want people to notice them 他們盼望別人看見他們怎麼敬虔 Let people see how pious they are 這些人已經得了他的賞賜 Jesus said they've received their rewards 換一句話,什麼意思呢? 他們禱告沒有用 Their prayers were useless 因為神不會賜給他們任何的福份 God will not give them any blessings 因為他們禱告參雜的動機 盼望人稱讚他、盼望人尊重他 盼望人榮耀他 For their motives is build their want praises from other people 他們完全失去了禱告的意義 Completely miss the meaning 耶穌再說:「你們禱告不要像外邦人。」 (參 太6:7) And Jesus said:「do not pray like a gentile」 他們常常重複禱告的詞句 Because they heap empty phrases 因為他們想「話多就蒙垂聽了」 They assume when they go on and on God will listen 這是完全錯誤的事情 This is wrong 你注意新派的人 The Liberals 他們禱告的時候 他們不會用「主耶穌」這個字 They wouldn't use the word "Lord Jesus" when they pray 你注意靈恩派的人 When you listen to Charismatic 他們叫耶穌、耶穌、耶穌 Jesus、Jesus、Jesus 很少用「主耶穌」這個字 They always use the word "Jesus" very seldom "Lord" 他們把這個禱告詞一直重複、一直重複 And they think if they keep repeating themselves 好像他們的上帝是耳聾的 As if God is deaf 所以他們要喚醒上帝 So you gonna to wake him up 使上帝醒過來 After he awake 做祂好像忘記做的事情 He would the things that he has forgoten 所以他們先假設自己是主動的 So we assume first we are in control 上帝是被動的 And God is passive 所以這個沉睡、被動、忘記,懶惰的上帝 我們要去提醒祂 And you got to remind this God who is lazy, sleeping and forgetful 這個在我們純正的信仰裡面 是完全沒有道理 而且非常可羞恥的事情 In our pure faith, this is most shameful and unreasonable 有一次我在台北講道的時候 Once I was speeching in Taipei 會眾先唱詩 The people sang first 唱詩裡面有一句,我嚇了一跳 And one of the statements astonished me 他說:「我們禱告、禱告 我們搖動上帝的手,叫祂做工。」 And the song said "We pray and pray we move the hands of God" 換我上台了 And when I spoke 我說:「你們在唱什麼? I said "what were you singing? 你們的意思,你不禱告,上帝就不做工嗎? You are saying if you do not pray and God would not work? 你的意思,上帝睡覺,你喚醒祂嗎? And God is sleeping so you wake him up 你是誰? Who are you? 你認識你的上帝又是誰?」 And what kind of God do you know?」 所以禱告跟信仰有很重要的關聯 And therefore prayer is very relative to faith 禱告跟純正的觀念 有很重要的關聯 Very related to pure understanding 信仰中間哪一種事 是我們非常需要更正的呢? And there are things in our faith we need to correct urgently 就是正確的神論 The correct doctrine of God 真正認識神到底是誰 You truely want to know who God is 真正相信祂 And truely believe in him 你才能禱告 Then you can pray 這樣我回到歸正神學來看禱告的神學 Returning to reform theology 保羅說:「若不信,你怎麼能求呢?」(參 羅10:14) The apostle Paul said unless you have faith, you can't ask 注意聽,「若不信,你怎能求呢?」 If you do not have faith, how can you ask? 今天靈恩派的人叫那些不信的人 「你信,你求,上帝就給你。」 The Charismatic said : "if you believe God will give whatever you want" 只要你懇切的求 So just ask firmly 只要你相信的求 Just believe 上帝一定成全你所求的 God will give what you want 那麼這些人還沒有信主 But some of them are not Christians 他們還沒有聽道 They don't hear the word 他們就盼望他的病得醫治 They want to be healed 所以問他:「你信不信?」 So you ask him : 「do you believe?」 他說:「我信。」 They say : "yes" 「你求。」 "Call" 他們憑什麼求呢? Call he what? 保羅說:「不行的。」 Paul says : "no" 如果這些人沒有信心,他怎麼祈求呢? If they don't even have faith, how would they call? 所以祈求,是建立在純正的信仰上面 And the prayer is built on pure faith 而信仰是建立在垂聽上帝的道裡面 And pure faith is built on the word of God 如果你沒有聽道,你怎麼能信心呢? How can you have faith if you have not listen 如果沒有信心,你們怎麼能禱告呢? And without faith, how can you pray? 一階接連一階的時候 And so one is link to the other 主阿!我要信祢 Oh Lord, I want to believe 我才能好好在祢面前禱告 Then I can pray properly 主阿,我要聽祢禱告 Lord I want to listen to your word 我才能建立信仰 Then I can build up my faith 因為信道是從? Because faith comes 什麼? 信到從聽道來的 From hearing 如果你沒有聽上帝的道,你怎麼會信呢? So how can you believe if you do not hear his word? 如果你沒有信,你怎麼會求呢? If you do not believe, how can you call? 信產生求 And so faith creates prayer 聽產生信 By hearing creates faith 但是傳,產生聽 But you need someone to preach before you can listen 若沒有人傳道,誰能聽道呢? So if there are no preachers, who will hear? 所以進到第四步裡面了 And so there are forth stages 禱告的基礎是信仰 The foundation of prayer is faith 信仰的基礎是聽道 The foundation of faith is listening 聽道的基礎是傳揚上帝的福音 And the fact you can listen is because someone preach 然後傳道的基礎是神的差遣 And you preach because God sent you 然後這五件事連起來的時候 When five items are linked together 結論就是神的主權,決定人的宗教生活 Conclusion is that sovereign will of God decide your life in religion 祢呼召人做傳道 When God calls someone to be a preacher 因為這些人把真理傳開了 These people will then preach the truth 因為這些人把道傳開了 And because they preach the truth 人就聽見上帝的話 We can hear the truth 因為人聽見上帝的話 And because we heard the truth 就產生了信心 We produce faith 因為人有了信心 And when we have faith 那麼他們才在上帝面前禱告 Then we can pray to God 從這個歸正神學的系統來看 This is a reform structure 整個世界的宗教都是亂禱告的 You would see that all religions pray haphazardly 二十多年前 Twenty over years ago 在台灣有很多人拜一些古裡古怪的東西 In Taiwan, people pray to all kinds of strange things 給他們的假神作一個用木頭、石頭 或著磚瓦、陶器做的形象 They used wood, they used stone to make idols 他們放在他們的桌子上 And then put them on the table 他們就天天求這些東西 And everyday they pray 當結果禱告沒有應驗的時候 But when your prayers didn't come true 他們就把這些神像把它摔破了 They would break the idols 你看這是何等諷刺的事情 This is most ironic 當你禱告的時候,你認它是神 When you pray, you consider they were the God 當你得不到禱告的垂聽 你把它當作糞土來丟掉 But if they do not answer then they become rubbish 這是人祈禱最可怕的事情 This is most horrifying we do pray 我們到神面前不是尊重祂 When we come before God is not you honor him 我們到神面前不是榮耀祂 It's not you gonna glorify him 我們到神的面前也不是感謝祂 It's not to give thanks to him 我們是利用上帝成全我們的需要 But we come to him so that he can do what I want 所以在禱告的中間,我們命令上帝替我們做事 In prayer we command him to work for us 但禱告的時候我們吩咐祂做我們的僕人 And we order him to be our servant 所以聖經給我們的教導完全不一樣 The Bible teach us complete differently 我們如果沒有從正統的信仰 得到了正統的觀念 我們的禱告 一定像外邦人一樣的糊塗 And if we do not have orthodox understanding from orthodox faith we would pray like a gentile 我們有正統的信仰以後 But we have orthodox faith 我們才照著正統信仰的內容 懂得怎樣謙卑,俯伏在上帝面前,向祂祈求 Then with the correct understanding of this faith we know how to humbly call upon God 親愛的弟兄姊妹 Dear brothers and sisters 為什麼人需要禱告? Why do we need to pray? 因為上帝造人的時候 是按照祂自己的形象樣式造 For God created us in his image and likeness 所以人是唯一能夠與神有相對存在 覺悟的一個活物 Among all living beings, we are the only one live in response to God We are the only being with consciousness of the relativity between us and our creator 所以上帝是我們創造的主 And God is our creator 我們是被造的一個人 And we are creatures 而上帝為我們造了萬有 And God for us creates all things 使萬有供應我們的需要 And we maybe sustained by all things 上帝又創造我們 And God created us 使我們來到祂的面前 Then we would come before him 所以萬有是為人造的 So all things have been created for men 人是為上帝造的 And we have been created for God 我再講一次,然後你們把它背起來 I say again You got to remember this 萬有是為人造的 All things were created for men 人是為上帝造的, 1、2、3 And man is created for God 萬有是為人造的,人是為上帝而造的 所以我們不可能活在一個與神 沒有關係的存在裡面 And so in a existence it is impossible not to have relationship with God 我們在神面前 Before God 我們是與祂相對的 We live relative to him 這個叫做相對的對存 This is a relative existence 不是一個絕對的獨存 Not an absolute singular existence 沒有一個人是絕對的獨存 Not a single one of us live by ourselves 我們都是與神相對的對存 We live in relative to God 那我們與神之間的關係 Our relationship with God 是按照神所訂的原則 正式建立起來的時候 When it is built base on God's principle 我們的生命才有價值 Then there is meaning in your life 我們與祂的關係才會恢復正常 And then our relationship is normalized with him 這樣我們的禱告也變成蒙悅納的禱告 And our prayer will be heard 如果不是這樣的話 If this would not a case 我們把無當作我們的主 We will treat objects as our Lord 把主當作我們的奴 And consider our Lord as our slave 我們利用上帝來追求物質 And we use God to get what we want 這就是假的宗教 This is false religion 這就是假的教會 A false church 這就是假的基督徒 False Christians 因為神在你的禱告生活裡面,是被利用者 For God is been made used by you 然後呢,在禱告生活中 你追求的是被造為我們存在的物質 And in your prayer, you want the material that God has made for you 我們利用神來達到目的 We use God to fulfill our need 而我們的目的不是神 And our purpose is not God 我們的目的是物質 Our purpose is material 所以我們把這個次序把它顛倒過來 The entire order is upside down 這樣我們越禱告,就越離開上帝 The more you pray, the farther you are from God 當你看見很多人很懇切禱告的時候 You look at people pray firmly 從外面看你很敬虔 On the surface, they are pious 你很佩服他 And you say this a good thing 許多的宗教都有令人佩服的敬虔外貌 In all religions there are pious people 但是耶穌基督不是如此 But Jesus said not so 因為這些人好像用嘴唇親近我 With their lips, it seems to have come close to me 但是他們的心遠遠離開我 But their heart is far away from me 所以他們拜我是枉然的 They worship me in vain 當這些人很敬虔的禱告的時候 And when we look someone pray firmly 他們看起來他們是很親近上帝 On the surface, they looks close to God 其實不是的 In reality, no 我八歲的時候 When I was eight 教會的禱告會裡面 In a church prayer meeting 很多人常常坐在我旁邊聽我禱告 Many people sit besides me to listen me pray 但有一次呢,我要聽另外一個人禱告 But once I heard somebody else pray 為什麼呢?Why? 因為那個人禱告得很懇切 Because this person was very firm 也有一點聲音 And has some noise 而且很長 Very long prayer 人家阿們,他還在禱 People are amen, but he is still praying 他阿們,有的人已經睡了 When he go for amen, people slept 所以我就靠近他,聽他怎麼禱告 So I went close to him, listen to what he said 當我聽他禱告的時候 When we heard him 我發現太令人失望了 I was very disappointed 因為他禱告什麼呢? You know what he prayed for? 主阿給我發財 Oh, Lord make me rich, oh Lord make me smooth 主阿給我順利,主阿給我成功 Give me success, Make my child success 主阿給我的孩子可以成就 給我的孩子生意做的好 Let their business progress 都是用自私做中心,在上帝面前禱告 And before God everything is self center 我在聽祂禱告的時候 And when I heard him 說那個人不好,你要刑罰他 They said : "Oh God, punish that guy" 你要咒詛他 Curse him 你要審判他 Judge him 你要教訓他 And teach him a lesson 我後來發現 And I discover 這個人心充滿自私的愛,跟仇敵的恨 This guy has selfish loving and sense of vengeance 那麼他把這個自私的愛跟復仇的恨 放在禱告中間的時候 他到底是不是知道 上帝要人怎麼禱告呢? And when he pray for himself and cursing other people I don't know whether he knows what prayer is 所以他的禱告不是禱告 是自私的精神的表達 And their fault is not really a prayer but an expression of selfish spirit 這是很可怕的事情 And it is most horrifying 所以我們到底應當怎麼禱告 So how then should we pray? 禱告不在乎你懇切不懇切 It is not about how firm you are 禱告在乎你知道純正的信仰做你祈求的基礎 It is dependent on whether you know it is based on your pure faith 若不信,怎麼能祈求呢? If you have no faith, how can you pray? 聖經裡面給我們看見,最敬虔的禱告的外貌 And the Bible shows us on the surface how pious prayers should be 最狂熱的禱告 The most firm prayer 是誰的禱告呢? Who's prayer is that? 不是耶穌的禱告 Not Jesus 不是掃羅的禱告 Not Saul 不是彼得的禱告 Not Peter 聖經裡面最狂熱、火熱、最殷勤的禱告 是假先知的禱告 The most zealous prayer recorded in the Bible are not false prophets 當以利亞在迦密山 他要復興以色列國人的信仰的時候 And so Elijah wanted to revive the faith of the Israelite 他就跟四百個的巴力的先知一同較量 There were four hundred false prophets of Baal that he face 他是最少數的 And he was like most only one 他只有一個人 面戰四百個假先知 Facing four hundred false prophets 他心靈感到很孤單 And Elijah felt lonely 但是以利亞在最孤單的時候,他沒有懼怕 But he was not afraid even though he was lonely 因為他以耶和華是他的主 Because God is his Lord 所以他對亞哈王說 So he said to king Ahab 「這幾年 「These few years 我指著永生的神耶和華啟示 By the name of the eternal God 我若不禱告,就沒有雨水降在地上來。」 I make a oath that if I do not pray there will be no rain。」 傳道人講話這麼可怕 這麼偉大的confidence 除了他以外,幾乎沒有第二個 Other than him, no other preacher has such confidence 如果他講了以後,第二天下雨 If it rains in very next day 他不是前功盡廢了嗎? Then he will feel misery 但是神與他同在 But God was with him 因為他講的話是神啟示下來的 For God reveal what he should say 所以那一天開始 That day was 我不禱告下雨的事情 He said if I do not pray for rain 所以三年半的時間上帝沒有降下水 Three and half years they had drought 那個時候全國最需要的是什麼呢? And the thing they need most 全國最需要的就是雨水 Would be rain water 但是他在迦密山時候 But when he was in mountain Carmel 他對假先知說: He said to the false prophets: 「你們禱告你們的神 「You pray to your God 叫祂降下火來 Ask them to send fire 燒掉你們祭壇上的牲物 To burn out the sacrifice on altar 我也禱告我的神 And I will pray to my God 求祂降下火來 And asking him for fire 燒掉我祭壇上的祭物。」 To consume the sacrifice。」 所以就訂了時間 And so they set the time 你們從幾點到幾點 From this time to that time 結束以後,如果沒有,就輪到我 After that, if there is no, then my turn 然後我幾點到幾點 我禱告我的上帝 I will call upon my God 他們都讚成了 And they all agree 所以四百個巴力的先知 They are four hundred false prophets 站在另外一邊 They stood one side 以利亞自己一個人,站在這一邊 Elijah himself stood on the other side 四百對一 Four hundred versus one 這是何等不平衡的事情 Very imbalance 當千千萬萬以色列百姓 And thousands of Israelite 圍在山上觀望戰鬥 Surrounded the mountain to see the fight 當聖經告訴我們 The Bible tells us 假先知懇切禱告、禱告 The false prophets pray firmly 火不降下來 Fire didn't come 再禱告 They prayed again 火又不降下來 再禱告,火還是不下來 And they prayed again, no fire 後來怎麼辦呢? What do they do? 他們用石頭砍自己 They used rocks to pierce themselves 用刀刺自己 And cut themselves by knife 巴力呀!巴力呀! Baal!Baal! 聽我們的禱告 Listen to us 把火降下來吧 Send us fire 你是保護我們的,你是偉大的神 You are, you are a great god 現在賜下禱告 Give us fire 會不會因為他的聲音特別大聲 巴力就做事情? Could it be they are so loud so their God would work? 會不會因為他們禱告特別懇切 就感動了巴力,行動呢? Maybe they are so firm, their God would be moved Nothing like that happen 沒有這樣的一件事情 假神就是假神 The false God is the false God 因為假神的禱告是對假神的禱告 The prayer is to false God 假神沒有辦法給你真正的力量 The false God has no power 所以他們就傷了自己 So although they hurt themselves 他們努力禱告 And pray firmly 懇切禱告以後 and call 完全沒有任何跡象,有火降下來 Nothing happen, no fire happen 以後怎麼辦呢? And then what? 以後以利亞對他說: Elijah said to them: 「大聲一點吧 「Shout louder 你們的神可能去走走 Maybe your God is walking around 他們到mall去買東西 Maybe went to the mall to shop 那些神忘記你們在禱告 They forget you are praying call him louder 大聲的呼叫吧 大聲一點吧!」 Call louder!」 以利亞下一個諷刺性的呼籲 And Elijah was sarcastic to them 他們更大聲的禱告 So they call even louder 還是沒有 And still nothing happen 以利亞就講了一句很俏皮的話 And Elijah said something naughty 你們的神片刻休息 Maybe your God is resting 其實那一句話可以翻譯成: 「你們的神可能去小便」 And actual you can said "your God went to take a pee" 所以祂現在不再這裡,在廁所那裡 So he is in the toilet actually 你大聲叫祂回來吧 Maybe call him louder 所以他們更大聲禱告 So they call loud stronger 時間到了 But when the time was up 以利亞說:「你們的機會結束了」 Elijah said "the time is up" 然後以利亞說: Elijah say: 「上帝的百姓阿 「The people of God 你們來到我這裡來 Come to me People of God, come on to me 上帝的百姓,來到我這裡 他把他們帶到這邊的祭壇 And he brought them to his altar 牲畜已經預備好了 And the sacrifice was on it 已經綁在這個祭壇上面 Already tied there 然後以利亞做了一件世人認為最笨的事情 And Elijah did something which people consider most stupid 有三年半沒有下雨 For three and half years with no rain 所以今天整個國家最貴的不是黃金 And so the most expensive thing would not be gold 最貴的是水 It would be water 以利亞說:「請把水拿來,澆在這個祭壇上」 Elijah said "trench the whole thing with water" 誰聽這個話呢,都是笨人 People who follow this are quite foolish 只有瘋子才把剩下一點點的水把它丟掉 You would be crazy to throw away the precious water 但神的工作就是如此 But this is the way God was 神的僕人像瘋子一樣的 Servants of God sometimes look crazy 每一個時代,有那些真正為上帝的工作 行動特別怪異的時候,人都會逼迫他 And people persecute servants of God that act strange 但神特別保守以利亞 But God preserve Elijah 所以他把他們澆水,來倒的時候 And so when he ask to trench the sacrifice 倒了一次,花了很多的水 Once a lot of water, second time, again 倒了第二次,再倒下去 第三次,再倒下去。第四次,再倒下去 Third time, forth time 那是全國可能所剩下的一點水 Perhaps it's the only water they have left 那這個水一定是要先給王用的 The king would have it first 百姓死算什麼? The king would not care about people 王一定先保守自己 The king will preserve himself 像現在的北朝鮮 Like north Korea now 當全國沒有飯吃的時候 When all country is in famine 你把糧食寄去拯救他們的百姓 And if you send money to that country 他們一定先給共產黨的軍隊吃飽,不給百姓 They would first feed the army 讓平常的人死在滿街道,也不要緊 To let common folks die 所以以利亞把這些水用完了以後 And so after Elijah use out of this water 他說:「people of God come on to me。」 「上帝的子民過來我這裡。」 然後他抬頭說 And then he look up 「God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob 「亞伯拉罕、雅各跟以撒的上帝 Please show to them that you are God 讓他們知道祢是上帝 And let them know I am your servant。」 而我是你的使者。」 他就禱告兩件事情 So he pray for two things 亞伯拉罕、以撒、雅各的上帝 The God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac 祢是向以色列人立約的上帝 You are God of covenant with Israelite 現在以色列人離開了祢 The Israelite have left you 他們又隨從亞哈王 And they had followed king Ahab 壞的政治領袖 A bad king 引誘他們過一個邪惡、抵擋祢的生活 Lure them into a life against you 現在我的百姓到這裡來 Now come over to me, my people 我向你們求你們列祖的上帝 I will call upon your God of your ancestors 主阿,求祢告訴祢的百姓 Oh God, tell your people 祢是真實的上帝 That you are the God in Israel 求祢告訴他們 And also the people 我是祢的僕人 I am your servant 這兩句話的禱告很感動我一生 This influence my entire life 我常常站在講台 I am always in the podium 我常常傳道 And preach 我傳福音的動機是什麼? What is the motive of my preaching? 我要我們的聽眾知道,神是神 我是祂派來的僕人 I want the people to know that God is God and I am his servant 為什麼神是神? Why do we say God is God? 因為祂立約了 Because he has covenant 祂紀念祂所立的約 He remember the covenant he set 祂誠信真實的上帝 He is a faithful God 祂是永遠不改變的上帝 A God eternally will not change 祂是永永遠遠的上帝 He is an eternal God 祂的誠實、祂的永恆、祂的不變 His faithfulness, his eternity, his immutability 成為祂所立的約的一個基礎 Becomes a foundation of covenant 主阿,求祢紀念祢的約 Oh Lord, remember your covenant 紀念祢對祢的僕人,亞伯拉罕 以撒、雅各所立的約 Remember what you say to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob 使祢的百姓知道祢是上帝 And let people know you are God of Israel 也知道我是祢的僕人 And I am your servant 他講完這一句話以後 After he said that 天上的火就降下來 Fire came from heaven 把祭牲完全燒盡了 And consume all their offering 那個木台已經很多水在裡面了 And there is already wet 怎麼容易燒盡呢? How would they be consumed? 因為火太大了 It was because fire was fierce 我請問你在三年半沒有雨水以後 為什麼求火,不是求雨呢? After three and half years why he asked for fire, and not rain? 這都是反常的 These are all unusual 這都是反心理學的 Against what we expect 這跟社會輿論完全不一樣的 Different from common ideas 神的工作就是這樣 But this is the way of God's works 當一個人真正明白神的心意 When a person truly know the heart of God 一個真正不是討人的喜歡的時候 And not be pleasing to men 他的行動雖然怪異 Although his action seems strange 但他的祈求是出於神的感動 But he is call upon God from God 他所禱告的對象是真正又真又活的上帝 And the object called in his prayer is a true living God 神就成全了 And God will listen to him 如果我們好好研究禱告的神學 If we study the theology of prayer carefully 我們可能幾十天還講不完 You could spend many days 但是神就在聖經裡面啟示 這樣的禱告才是真的禱告 And God reveal the true prayer to us in the Bible 今天我們對上帝的禱告是怎樣的禱告呢? What kind of prayer we have towards God? 你一方面是假藉上帝的全能的這個名稱 On the one hand we make you is almighty 逼祂,照著祂的全能 行你管制祂、你吩咐祂行的事情 You want to force God to do what you want 祢不是全能的嗎? Are you not almighty? 祢作這件事吧 Then do this 如果祢全能的上帝 If you are all powerful 祢醫治我孩子癌症的病 Heal my child's cancer 如果祢是全能的 If you are almighty 祢使我快快發財 You must give me money 如果祢全能的 使我可以得到更大的享受 Give me more enjoyment in my life 我們利用神是全能的作為晃子 來表達我們對神的逼迫 對神的強求、對神的利用 And we use God's almighty as excuse to display our selfishness 神不會聽這樣的禱告 And God would not listen to these prayers 那我們到神面前來的時候 And when we come before God 我們要把祂當作是誰,我們才能向祂禱告呢? Whom should we consider him to be? 耶穌說:「祂是天上的父。」 (參 馬6:9) Jesus said : "he is our father in heaven" 耶穌講第一句話的時候 When the very first sentence 你們禱告要如此說 Pray them like this 我們在天上的父 Our father in heaven 已經講了一句歷史上從來沒有人 在禱告裡頭提過的話 This certain something in history 你在地上,祂在天上 You are on the earth, he is in heaven 你向祂祈求的時候 When you pray to him 你應當以兒子的身份 Like a child 以謙卑的身份 With humility 以信仰的身份 With faith 尊主為大 To consider him as Lord 尊主為聖 Consider him as holy And said our father in heaven 這樣才把你與神之間相對存在的本能用出來了 Then you use the relative existence between you and God 主阿,我是活在祢面前的 That God I live before you 祢是我的創造主 You are my creator 祢又是我的救贖主 And you are my savior 祢創造我,使我存在 You have created me so I existed 祢救贖我,使我成為祢的兒女 And you have saved me that made I become you child 我稱呼祢是我在天上的父 And so I address you my father in heaven 禱告是一件很重要的事情 Prayer is most important 使我們在地上跟祂在天上之間 有一個生命之間的交流 It link us in life on earth to heaven 這是人的生命與神的生命一個 interpersonal relationship An interpersonal relationship between man's live and God's live 神是誰? Who is God? 神是一個最偉大的祢 God is the most greatness you 不是我們一個討論中間的一個"他" Not someone that we just discussing 更不是我們想像的一個"它" Or an imagination object God is not an "it" 祂不是它 God is not a "him" 祂也不是他 God is a thou 祂是祢,最大的祢 The greatest thou 我面對的對象 The one I face 這叫做上帝 He is God 十九世紀丹麥的一個哲學家齊克果講一句話 (Søren Aabye Kierkegaard,1813-1855) And Denmark philosopher Kierkegaard said 他說:"God is not a topic of our discussion" 上帝不是我們討論的一個對象 God is not a subject in our debate 或著是我們辯論中的一個東西 不是我們辯論的主題 And not a theme of our debate 不是課堂教導的一個知識 Or something you study in the classroom 不是我們討論的一個題目 Or a topic we discuss God is the object of our worship 上帝是我們崇拜的對象 我們敬拜的對象是上帝 An the object we worship 所以祂在天上,你在地上 And so he is in heaven you are on earth 你的言語要稀少 So your words got to be few 你輕步走到祂的面前 And walked before him lightly 以敬畏的心來到祂的面前 With heart of reverence come before him 你要從用心裡面最誠實的心靈來敬拜祂 With the deepest of your heart, you pray to him in truth 禱告的對象 And so the object of prayer 禱告的認識 The understanding of prayer 禱告的動機 The motive of prayer 禱告的態度 The attitude of prayer 是比你的禱告所謂的懇切火熱更要緊 Is a lot more important than the zealous prayers 如果一個人對神不是真正的認識 If you do not really know God 我們對神沒有真正的信仰 If you don't have true faith 我是沒有資格對祂發出禱告的聲音的 You really are not worth to pray to him 這個父是祢,就是在我面前活著的祢 是創造我使我存在的祢 我發現祢是存在的 祢是永遠的 我不過是祢所造的一個非常卑微的活物 And this father is "you", you who has created me So before you I discover I am just very finite and small 在十九世紀的時候 In the 19th century 丹麥的齊克果從傳道書 得到三個本質差異的題目 In Ecclesiastes, Kierkegaard found three important things 第一、天地之別 First, there is different between heaven and earth 第二、永恆跟暫時之別 There is a big different between eternity and temporal 第三、神人之別 And third, there is a different between God and men 你要把這三個階層分化的很清楚 If you understand these three things God is God 上帝是上帝 God is not man 上帝不是人 Man is man 人是人 Man is not God 人不是上帝 Heaven is heaven, heaven is not earth 天國是天國,天國不是地上 Earth is earth, earth is not heaven 地上是地上,地上不是天上 Time is time 時間是時間 Eternity is eternity 永恆是永恆 齊克果讀聖經跟我們不一樣的 And Kierkegaard look at Bible in differently from us 他讀了一段就變成很大的一個架構出來了 When he read a sentence he had a big structure coming from that 他就用了qualitative different這個字 所謂有質方面的分別 從頭使我們建立對這段聖經信仰的了解 That we once again we establish our understand this way 那我們在哪裡呢? Where are we then? 我們在地上 We are on the earth 上帝在哪裡呢? Where is God? 祂在天上 God is in heaven 我們的肉體是什麼? Physically 是暫時的活著 We are temporal 我們的靈魂是什麼? What about spirit? 要面向永恆活在上帝的面前 We face the eternal God 我們今天有的是什麼? What we have today? 我們有在時間的限制 We are constraint by time 我們裡面又另外一個原則是什麼? But there is something inside of us? 是永永遠遠的存在 And that's a eternal existence 所以齊克果再說 So Kierkegaard said Let God be God, let man be man 讓上帝成為上帝,讓人成為人 如果你知道你是人 If you know you are man 你知道祂是上帝 And he is God 你知道上帝與人之間的分別 是本質的分別,不是程度的分別 And he know the difference between God and man is qualitative, not quantitative 這個純正的信仰 And this pure faith 所產生純正的知識 Would produce pure knowledge 是使你能夠好好的向祂禱告 Enabling you to pray properly 耶穌基督的禱告 The prayer of Jesus Christ 是一切人對神禱告的模樣 Is the foundation of all prayer of mankind 是糾正我們禱告所有真理,最大的動力 Correct our prayers in the truth 聖經裡面告訴我們耶穌作人的時候 The Bible says when Jesus walk the earth 祂代表你、代表我 He represent you and I 用人的身份向上帝禱告 As men he pray towards God 祂對上帝說:「聖潔的父阿」 And he said to God : "Holy Father" 對上帝說:「公義的父阿」 And said to God : "Righteous Father" 求祢榮耀祢的兒子 Glorify Thy Son 使祢的兒子也榮耀祢 Let Thy Son glorify Thou 所以祂禱告時候很清清楚楚的 So his prayer was most precise 怎樣尊敬神,怎樣盡人子得責任 How do you honor God, how do you fulfill responsibility 怎樣順服天父 How do you be obedient to your Father 請祢把這個杯挪去吧 Remove the cup 但是不要照我的意思 But not by My will 要照祢的意思 But by Thy Will 耶穌基督的禱告,跟所有宗教信徒的禱告 不同的地方 The difference between the prayer of Jesus and to all religious people 所有罪人的禱告以自己為中心的 The prayer of sinner is self center 耶穌的禱告是以神為中心的 Prayer of Jesus is God center 所有人的禱告是為自己的需要所發出禱告 Men's prayer is based on own needs 耶穌的禱告是為了神的國度、神的榮耀 跟神的權柄而禱告的 The prayer of Jesus is for God's kingdom, God's power, God's glory 所以聖經告訴我們 你們要先求上帝的國和什麼?上帝的義 Say first kingdom of God and His Righteousness 你們所需要的就多多加給你們了 And what you need would be added onto you 我不是賜給你們,是加給你們 Not given to you, but added onto you 因為你們沒有求以前 Because before you pray 你們所需要的,上帝都知道了 God already know what you needed 那我們如果上帝已經知道,那我們還要禱告嗎? Then why should I pray? 我常常講一些話很多人莫名其妙 Some people confused what I said 我說我沒有為過錢向上帝禱告過一次 I tell people that I've not asked God for money before 我活到世界上七十四年 I've been a life 74 years 我沒有求上帝給我錢一次 I've never asked God for money even once 我每一次坐汽車的時候 Every time I travel in a car 我沒有禱告求主給我平安 I never pray for safety 我在世上生活的時候 When I live in my life 我沒有求過上帝給我發財 I never ask God make me rich 給我幸福,給我平安 To give me bliss, to have peace 對我來說,這些我不必禱告 To me, I don't have to pray for these things 因為這些神早就知道了 Because God already knew 那麼如果你問「唐牧師你禱告什麼?」 So you ask : "Dr. Tang what do you pray for?" 我求上帝的國,求上帝的義 I seek for the kingdom of God And his righteousness 什麼叫做國呢? What does the kingdom mean? 有國防的,有系統的 It has defense, there is a system 有政府的 There is a government 有百姓的 There are people 有規律的 There is rules 有法典的 There is rule of law 這叫做國度 This is kingdom 所以我求上帝的國度的時候 When I seek the kingdom of God 我就盼望主在寶座上 I want God to be on throne 祂的子民順服祂 Let his people obedient to him 遵行祂的誡命 To do his word 順服祂的旨意 And be obedient to his will 使我們可以被祂使用 Then he may use us 在國度裡面與祂一同征戰 And in the kingdom battle with him 抵擋反對我們國度的撒但 And fight against enemy of Satan 求上帝的國 So you seek after the kingdom of God 你還要求上帝的義 And seek after his righteousness 什麼叫做求上帝的義呢? What does that mean? 因為上帝的國是用義來治理百姓的原則 For God rule over people with his righteousness 撒但的國是用罪來治理牠百姓的原則 And Satan use sin to rule over his people 在神的國度裡面有義的內容 In the kingdom of God there is righteousness 在撒但的國度裡面有罪的內容 In the kingdom of Satan there is sin 在神的子民中間有順從義,做義的奴僕 Among the people of God, we are all obedient to the righteousness 撒但的國度裡面有順從罪惡,做罪的奴僕 But in the kingdom of Satan, they are obedient to sin 當我們求上帝的國的時候 So when we seek after kingdom of God 我們也求上帝的義 We seek after His Righteousness 主阿祢的國、祢的義 Oh Lord Your Kingdom, Your Righteousness 充滿在其中 Be fill the world 我為祢的國、祢的義,向祢祈求 And I pray to You for Your kingdom, Your Righteousness 求祢榮耀祢自己的名 Then You glorify your name 祢擴張祢自己的勢力 And expand Your power 祢造就祢的兒女 And built up Your people 祢垂聽祢兒女順著祢你的旨意向祢發出的禱告 And listen to the prayer that's in the accordance to Your Will 我有些時候跟靈恩派的人坐在汽車裡面 Sometimes I travel with Charismatics 他們很屬靈 They are very spiritual 還沒有開車以前先禱告 Before they start the engine, they pray 什麼都先禱告 They pray first 我好像看他們很靠近上帝 It's seems that they are close to God 其實我看他們很怕死 But I think they are fear of dying 因為我不禱告也沒有死 I didn't pray, I didn't die 我什麼病我都還沒有死 I have illness but I never die 我不是說我不會死 I am not saying I would never die 我死的那一天我一定死 When the day I die, I surely die 時間到了就死了 When the time come, I will die 上個禮拜我跌倒了以後 Last week I fell 禮拜三早上跌倒 I fell on Wednesday morning 八點半跌倒,十點我去講道 8:30, At ten I preach 二十二點去吃飯 At twelve I had lunch 一點半我去找醫生 1:30 I went to look a doctor 三點多才找到醫生 3:00 I found the doctor 晚上再去禱告再去禱告 And night we preach 第二天回到印尼 Second day we return to Indonesia 做五個鐘頭的飛機 After five hours of flight 在經濟艙裡面 In the econimic room 動都不能動 Nowhere to turn 因為機上太多人了 Too crowded 晚上我又在講道 At night I preach 然後就在三四天裡面 Within four days 我講了十多堂 I preach more than ten sections 我一彎腰的時候 痛得不得了 When I twist myself around is very painful 我咳嗽的時候,痛得不得了 If I was cough, very painful 後來有人說你到新加坡 So someone said go to Singapore 一定要去用X光照 You'd better go and get X ray 雖然台灣的醫生說你不必照 Taiwanese doctor said no need 我還是照一照更好 But people say better go and check it 上個禮拜我講到九點半 So last week I preach you until 9:30 我就照著醫生跟我約定的,我就到了港怡醫院 I went to Gleneagles Hospital after preaching to you 十點半的時候 At 10:30 照出來了 They had X ray 他說你的第十一根骨頭已經不知道在哪裡了 第十一根骨頭已經裂了 He said there is a fracture 11 你跌的太厲害了 And you fell too badly 那怎麼辦呢? What do to? 裂就裂吧 Well, just a fracture 好有好的時候,裂有裂的時候 There would time to be fractured, time to be healed 第二天一早我做飛機再到台灣去 The second day I went to Taiwan 再講道 再講道 再講道 And give preach, and preach, and preach 親愛的弟兄姊妹 感謝上帝 Dear brothers and sisters, thanks be to God 我真正經歷一件事 I really do experience since one day 什麼呢 ?不是懼怕 Not fear 而是有信心,只要信,不要怕(參 可5:36) With faith, just believe, do not be afraid 大家說,1、2、3 「只要信,不要怕」 唸的很好 有時候你們念說:「只要怕,不要信。」 Sometimes you say:"just be afraid, don't believe" 所以我告訴你,我這一生,不怕危險 I tell you, in my life, I'm not afraid of danger 所以我勇敢直衝 Boldly I charge 我這一生,不怕病 In my life, I am not afraid of illness 有時候我病了我照樣做飛機講道,為什麼呢? I still fly around when I was sick, why? 我相信我病了,去做飛機回來就好了 I think I'll be healed by the plant trip 我不怕累 I'm not afraid tireness 所以最多的一次,一天講十二次道 I have twelve sections before in a day 那時候我才三十二歲 I was 32 到晚上那一場的時候 Until the evening 還是大聲講 但是很勉強 I still preach loudly But it was tough 回到家裡面的時候像死人一樣 When I ran home I exhaust like a dead 而且是有復活能力的死人 But I can be resurrected 所以第二天我再復活起來 And the second day I was resurrected 我不怕累,我不怕苦 I am not afraid of fatigue or difficulty 我不怕病 我不怕窮 Or illness, or property 我不怕危險 Danger 結果發生什麼事呢 And in the end 病怕我,窮怕我 The illness fear me, property afraid of me 累怕我,苦怕我 fatigue afraid of me, difficulty afraid of me 我勇往直前 I just charge forward 直到今天 我感謝主 Til today, I give thanks to God 七個月前 我開了心臟 Seven month ago, I had a bypass surgery 現在好像更健康很多了 Now seems to be a lot healthy 所以我要更努力傳福音 So I work harder 本來各地查經我盼望停止了 At first I wanna to stop these tour 心臟病很重了 Because I has heart problem 已經很累了 You must be very tired 但因為好了以後 But after recover 我發現可以再延長講下去 I say let's prolonging 因為神與我同在 Because God is with me 感謝上帝 Thanks be to God 我們為什麼禱告呢? Why do we pray? 因為我們需要一個永恆的「祢」 Because we need an eternal Thou 我再講一次 God is not the topic of our discussion 上帝不是我們討論的一個課題 God is not an object of our debate 或著我們辯論的一個題目 God is not something in our understanding 或著在我們的認知裡面的一樣東西 God is the almighty one 上帝是全能者 The one who own our life 祂完全擁有我們的生命 Who determine our living and our death 祂決定我們的生死 神是活著的 God is living 我們來到祂面前 And when we come before him 把祂當作一個永恆的祢 成為生命相交的對象 You must see Him as an eternal Thou as a relationship with your life 二十世紀初期的時候 In the beginning of 20th century 希伯來大學有一個很著名的教授 叫做professor Dr. Martin Buber (馬丁·布伯,1878-1965,奧地利猶太人哲學家) Martin Buber from Hebrew university B-u-b-e-r 你可以去google查這個名字 You can check out his naming in the google Martin Buber 在二十世紀初的時候 他受過齊克果的影響 He was influenced by Kierkegaard in twenty century 他寫了一本書不到一百面 He wrote a book that is pretty short 在我知道,這是人類歷史裡面 寫最少最薄的書 影響最大最深遠的一本 In my understanding this is the most influential book by the number of pages 所以二十世紀初期 Beginning of 20th century 最大的哲學家、最大的神學家 The most great philosopher, the greatest theologian 都在這個書的影子下面發展他們的思想 Develop their thought under the shadow of this book 這本書的名字很簡單 The topic is simple 有三個字 Three words I and thou 我與你 我與祢,上帝是大的祢 我與祢,這個關係 I and a thou 那麼他把我這個思想分成上帝在人的過程中間 可以有三個不同的層次 He think there are three kind of process between God and us 所以當我們不認識上帝的時候 When we do not know God 把上帝當作成一個它 God is a it 把祂當作一個它 所以我們討論的時候,這個上帝是什麼東西? So when we discuss, what is this God? 這個上帝有什麼心情呢? And what kind of God is? 這個上帝有什麼關係呢? What kind of the relationships does it with us? 就把上帝當成它來討論 So you discuss God as a "it" 我相信他還是受齊克果的影響 I think he has been influenced by Kierkegaard 慢慢慢慢慢慢 我就覺得上帝是活著的 不能當作it, 要當作he And so later you think God is living so he better be a he How about him 我們說祂 He is a living him 祂是活著的 He is a another him 祂是另外一個個體 He is a transcend him 祂雖然是超越性的祂 He is eternal him 是永遠的祂 He still is a "him" 但是還是祂 但是當有一天你跟神的關係更密切的時候 But when you come to a closer relationship with God 你就從it 變成him 變成thou Form it to him, to thou 主阿,我來到祢的面前 That God I come before Thou 祢是我的主 Thou are my God 我的好處不在祢以外(詩16:2) I have no good apart from Thou. 現在我問你 So I ask you 你信主多久了 How long have you believed in God 上帝在你心中是一個什麼 What kind of God do you believe in 是一個它,是一個祂,或著是一個祢? Is he a it, could he be a him, or is he thou? 你把祢自己跟神的關係 定位在一個怎樣的情形之下呢? How do you understand the relationship 你知道不知道你活在祂的面前? Do you know that you live before him? 祂兩刃利劍的眼睛射透你 His eyes is like a sharp two-edged sword 鑒察你一切心腸肺腑 He can search your heart and test the mind. 你要思念你頭腦所想的一切(參 詩139) And he can know what you are thinking about 你坐下你起來,祂都看見 He can see you whether you sitting or standing 你行走你躺臥,祂都知道 Or when you walking or lying 祂也鑒察你心中所你隱藏的各樣的意念 He can search you very thought 但你不覺悟 But you are not aware of this 好像單面玻璃 Like an one way mirror 你可以看見對方 對方看不見你 You can see the others, but he can not see you 新加坡的機場就有很多這樣的玻璃 In Singapore airport you have a lot of one way mirrors 有一次我看見一個人對著玻璃照來照去梳頭髮 裡面人家看他很清楚 Once I saw someone in front of the mirror but someone from the other side 但是他完全不知道 But he doesn't know that 因為他認為我可以掌握的,我知道 他不知道別人更掌握他,是他不知道 He is not aware there a lot of people behind the mirror controlling him 因為我們在神的面前如何 What about us before God 神對你是怎樣的一個位格 What kind of God do you have 與神之間的關係怎樣建立起來 What kind of relationship do you have 你把神當作什麼? You treat God as what? 我做一個很簡單的比喻 A simple illustration 因為這個比喻是我們每一個人都有經驗的 There all of us have the same experience 當第一次愛上一個女孩子的時候 When you first fell in love 你當然選很漂亮的 Of course you pick a pretty girl 當然選你理想中的 Or the one in your ideal 但你的理想中的人 But the one who on your ideal 很不願意把你當作她理想中間的人 May without be willing to response accordingly 所以你要對祂講話 So you want to speak to her 很不好意思 But you are embarrassed 為什麼不好意思呢? Why embarrassed? 因為有意思,所以不好意思 Because you have some motive 你要是對那個女孩子沒有意思你就很好意思 If you don't have motive, you would speak boldly 越有意思的你就不好意思 Once you have motive. you feel embarrassed 所以你吞吞吐吐 So you stumbled 等來等去,等了好久 And you don't know how to say, you wait for long time 後來不知道吃了老虎膽 Finally become very bold 跑到她面前去 And you go before her 某某人,我有話跟、跟、跟……你說 And so you, I want to tell you something 「什麼話?」「特別的話。」 "And she say what?" "A special word" 「那就說吧」 "Then say" 「我、我、我告訴你」 "I tell you" 他說:「我、我、我、我…」 「這樣還要跟我講話,不管你了」 你要什麼? What do you want? 我很想跟你作特別的朋友 I feel that we shouold be a special friend 她一猜就猜中了 And she could guess 猜中你要做什麼 What you want to do 請你回去自己照相,照自己的鏡子好嗎 She say why don't you look at mirror yourself 你看看你自己什麼樣子,你要我? Look at what you look like 哇,你失戀了 And you were fall out of love 你沒有辦法忘記她 And you can not forget her 你也沒有辦法得著她 But you can not get her too 你也沒有辦法不得著她 But you can not let her go 又不能得著他 But you can not get her 你要忘記她,又不能忘記她 You can't even forget her 你就變成世界最孤單的存在主義者 And you become the loneliest as existentialist 你深深覺悟存在主義者 You truly understand you are existentialist 我有一個I There is a I 但沒有一個thou But I don't have a thou 生命的孤獨alienator You are alienator 你現在被異存化了 You are segregated and alienated from her 這個是共產黨的名詞,alienation,alienated Word from communism 我們怎麼辦呢? What do you do? 你孤單過你的生活 You live lonely 當一個人在孤單中間的時候,你就變成存在主義者了 When you are lonely, you feel like an existentialist 但是他又不願意過長期存在主義者 But you don't want to do that too long 我要盼望做一個相對對存者 You want someone to live with 好,降低標準 So I lower my standard 選一個不太漂亮的 Pick one not so pretty 比較普通的 A more common looking girl 那麼可能就有盼望了 Maybe you have hope 因為最高的要求常常帶來就是泡沫 帶來就是失敗 The highest standard often disappoint you 找到一個有眼睛有鼻子,也是差不多的 So you find someone with eyes, with nose 再鼓起勇氣 Then you try again 對他說:「我有話對你講」 And say to her:"I have something to tell you" 現在穩定了,沒有我、我、我、我、我了 Now you are more steady 我有話對你講 I have something to tell you 什麼事阿? And she say what? 我喜歡你 I like you 他回答什麼呢? And she said 你也不錯,我也喜歡你 You are so not too bad, I also like you 你說:「好了」 「Ok fine」 現在可以建立I thou relationship Now you can have I thou relationship 你還沒有跟她談的時候,你跟你的同學談 But before you spoke to her, you told your classmate 我喜歡那個人 I like that person 你看她多漂亮,你看她多凌厲 She is pretty, and so agile 你看她多聰明,因為她有這麼多的才幹 Very clever, very talent 她真是做事很精明,她真是很好 She is really really capable good 從前面看很好,從後面看更好 From the front is good, from the back better 哇!因為看不到她臉更好 Without the face better 所以你跟人家談、談、談,談到最後呢 And the end 你想,我為什麼要跟人家談 Why do I talk to other people? 我要談的不是他 I am not talking with this guy 我要談的是這個女孩子 I should talk to the girl, right 所以更勇敢對她談 Be more bold 她接受你了 And she accept you 自從她接受你以後 Since she accept you 你不會再跟別人談了 You won't talk to other people 你跟別人談,只能把她當作她 You treat other people as he or she 你把她當作你對象的時候 But when you have someone you like 你跟她談的時候,她是一個妳 And she become a thou 所以你不要I him, I her relationship It's not I-him, I-her relationship 你要I thou relationship But I-thou relationship 所以兩個人談了,相對的存在 And so when two person relative exist 變成相愛的生命 And you love each other 變成結合在一起合一 In union 你結婚了 You get marry 這是I thou relationship This is said I thou relationship This is only sweetest world 這是非常美滿的一件事情 這是甜美的生命 Very sweet life 甜美的世界 A sweet world 你跟你所愛的人結婚了 You marry someone you love 但是我告訴你 But I tell you I thou relationship The I thou relationship 跟她在一起是永恆的嗎? Is it eternal? 不一定的 Not necessary 法國有一句成語 There is a French phrase 愛我的,我不愛她 The one who love me, I don't love her 我愛她的,不愛我 But the one I love they don't love me 兩個相愛的 不長久 But the two who love each other will not last 所以這個I thou是建立的 So I-thou maybe built up 不是一個eternal thou But it is not a eternal thou 你說:「是阿!我們約定到死不分離嘛」 You say:"well, we will die together" 好像是這樣 Seems like the case 一年以後,孩子生出來了 But one year later, when your child is born 你說:「you are my thou」 你說:「你是我的"你"」 但是她回答說:「you are not my thou。」 但是她說:「你不是我的"你"」 「I am not your thou, who is your thou?」 你說:「我不是嗎?那是誰?」 My baby is my thou 這個baby是我的你 所以女子生了孩子就開始淡忘丈夫了 And so many women forget their husband once their child come 每天講了:「嘻嘻嘻」 跟她的孩子 I thou I thou,不是你了 Everyday her focus is on the child not you anymore 你就變成一個被孤單化alienated again And you are alienated again 不要緊啦,至少還是我的孩子嘛 It's Ok, it's my child 跟孩子玩我也很快樂啦 I'm happy to play with child 人生就是這樣啦 That's the way life is 已經不是從前那個thou Not like past anymore 有一天褪色了 A little bit fade 有一點打折扣了 A little bit discount 後來孩子越來越多,她越不睬你了 But the more children you have, the less she care about you 現在跟你好就是因為你給他錢 She is good to you because you pay her money 你沒有帶錢來,你根本不必回 Without money, don't even come home 沒有thou也不要緊了 Doesn't matter with no thou 後來孩子慢慢長大以後 And when the child grow up 我也跟我孩子建立I thou relationship Well I want the I-thou relationship with my child 結完了以後呢 As well 孩子十八歲了 The child is eighteen 他不把你當作他的thou了 They don't consider you are thou 你說:「孩子阿,my thou。」 You look at your child and say: "you are my thou" 孩子說:「My thou is not you」 The child say:「你不是我的你」 My thou is my girlfriend in my school 我的學校的那個女朋友才算 所以你又再失去了 So again you loss it 到最後孩子一個一個讀書 And then the child go study 到英國讀書,到美國讀書,到澳洲讀書 Go oversea, go America, England, Australia 一個一個去了 One by one 現在不得不第二次度蜜月,但是現在老來老去 Now you are both old for second honey moon 像雞皮一樣的老人家 Your skin looks like chicken skin I thou,很難看的thou了 So now your thou become quite ugly 一個老人家的thou了 Old people thou 剛剛第二次渡蜜月 The second honey moon just start 忽然間不久,一個死去了 But one would die suddenly 你又再完全空了 Again is empty 孩子走了,妻子死了 The child has left, the wife has died 孤獨零丁,堅體衰老了 You are now alone, and you are grew older 沒有力量了 No more strength 那你要問一個問題 Then you must ask this question Who is my immortal thou? 我那個永遠的你到底是誰? Who is my unchangable thou 我那個不變的你到底是誰 Who is my perfect thou 完美的你到底是誰 You should return to God 你應該回到上帝的面前 我告訴你,很多人在他年老的時候 他才回到上帝面前 Many people return to God when they are old 所以所羅門說 Solomon said 趁著你年幼,紀念造你的主 (參 傳12:1) Remember also your Creator in the days of your yourth 很多人年老的時候 回到上帝的面前的時候 神已經不給他機會了 Many times you go back to God when you are old God does not give you opportunity anymore 為什麼很多人要到老的時候 才產生宗教的動力呢? Why do you become religious only when you are old 齊克果自己承認這件事情 Kierkegaard himself admit this 當你年輕的時候 When you are young 你過的第一段,是叫做aesthetic stage You live in aesthetic stage 當你人生更有經驗的時候 But when you become more experienced 你活的第二段 叫做ethical stage The second life style is ethical stage 當最老的時候 When you get very old 你進到一個religious stage 那你就變成很有宗教情操 你現在跟神發生關係了 You have relationship with God 老了才親近上帝 When you are old, then you think of God 老了才到上帝面前 Then you come before God 那你大半一生都已經度過了 But most of your life has passed 你的最好的黃金時代已經荒廢了 The best of your years are gone 你老的時候,你到上帝面前 When you are elder, you come before God 我十七歲奉獻做傳道 I decided to be a preacher and give my life at seventeen 我已經服事我的主五十七年了 I've serve my Lord for fifty-seven years 我常常對祂說:「主阿,你是我的祢 I always said to God " Lord, you are my thou 祢是我的主,祢繼續用我吧。」 You are my Lord, use me please" 但我有一個表叔,這個人曾經要做過外交官 But I have an uncle, he once was a diplomat 曾經是中華民國對泗水的領事 And was consul of China 這個人七十八歲的時候 When he was seventy-eight 對我講一句話 He said to me 他說我看破紅塵了 Well he said I've seen true life 我對世界看透了 I've seen through everything of life 我是完全奉獻給主 Now I give my life completely to the Lord 完全奉獻給主 Completely give my life to the Lord 我說:「表叔阿,你沒有辦法完全奉獻給主」 And I said "uncle, you can't give everything to God now" 我說:「我完全,怎麼沒有辦法 He said "I can 我什麼都不要 I don't wanna anything 我完全奉獻主。」 I give to Lord everything" 我說:「你的時間沒有完全奉獻主 I said "well your time is not given to God completely 你年輕的時候愛賭博 When you were young you gamble 你年輕的時候愛喝酒 You drink 你年中的時候愛跳舞 In your middle age you like to dance 你七十八歲才完全奉獻給主 And seven-eight you said you completely give life to God 你要奉獻給主幾年呢?」 How many years do you give" 過一年多以後他就死了 More than a year he die 死的時候最靠近他的親戚就是我 And I was the closest relative to him when his death 所以我替他洗澡,替他換衣服 So I bath him, I change him 我自己去買鞋子給他穿上去 I bought shoes for him 把他放在棺材裡面 And put him in the coffin 他只有女兒,沒有男孩子 He has daughters, no sons 他有一個養的男孩子在加拿大,不能回來 An adopted son in Canada 所以我什麼都替他做好了 So I have do everything for him 但是我心裡思想,你願意完全奉獻 In my heart I thought You are willing to give everything 但你只能奉獻你殘餘的最後一年的時間 But actually you only can give the leftover time 什麼叫做完全奉獻呢? What does it mean to give completely? 不是你所有的完全 Not everything 是你整個生命的完全 But your life 整個思想的完全 Your thought 整個心態的完全 Your attitude 靈性的完全 Your spirituality 信仰的完全 Your faith 到祂的面前來 To come before God I thou 因為這一個關係 Because of this relationship 所以我們能禱告 We can pray 我們禱告,是來到這個永恆的祢面前 We pray, is before the eternal thou 不是要利用祂 Not to make use of him 不是要命令祂 Not to command him 不是要指揮祂 Not to direct him 我們不是要玩弄祂 And not to play fool for him 許多人的禱告是利用上帝 Many prayer are making use of God 許多人的禱告是玩弄上帝 Many prayers make fool for God 許多人禱告是命令上帝 Many prayers direct God 禱告不是命令上帝 The prayer is not directive to God 禱告是發現神給我的命令 Is to discover the command of God say 禱告不是改變上帝 Prayer is not to change God 禱告是求主的靈改變我這個敗壞的人 To call the spirit of God to transform us 禱告不是利用上帝 Prayer is not to make use of God 禱告是把自己交給上帝,讓祂使用我們 Is to put yourself in the hands of God that he may use us 主耶穌教導我們禱告的第一句話 So the very first sentence Jesus taught 你來到誰面前呢? Tell us who do you come before 你對誰講話? To whom are you pray to 我們在天上的父(參 太6:9) 這句話太偉大了 This is such a great verse 把上帝叫做父 We consider God our father 沒有一個宗教可以作到的事情 No religion can achieve this 孔子沒有告訴我們有一個父在天上 Confuscious never told us there is a father in heaven 老子沒有告訴我們有一個父在天上 Lao-tzu has never taught us there is a father in heaven 墨子孟子沒有告訴我們有一個父在天上 Mencius and Mozi never tell us there is a father in heaven 佛教也沒有告訴我們有一位天父在天上 Buddhism never told us there is a father in heaven 印度教也沒有這樣的話語 Neither does Hinduism 佛教是無神論的 Buddhism has no God 因為佛生出來,根據傳說 一個手指指著上面,上天下地唯我獨尊 It's seems that Buddha was born to point to heaven and earth and said heaven and earth I am the greatest 所以沒有上帝的信仰 So there is no God in this faith 也沒有天上的父的觀念 No relationship with father 因為這是一個無神論的宗教 It is a religion without a God 那麼佛教是無神論 Buddhism is without a God 那佛教徒拜什麼呢 Then what is they pray to 他們拜一個不承認神的神 They pray to a God who doesn't admit self to be God 他們拜釋迦摩尼 Śākyamuni 釋迦摩尼從來沒有說他是神 Śākyamuni never declaim he is God 釋迦摩尼說我們每一個人都有佛性 He says all of us have buddha in us 所以如果你修身養性,清靜無為,直到完全聖潔 進到涅槃的時候,你就變成一個佛 And so if you work quiet in your life and be built entire to the nirvana Then you become a buddha 所以他們要向誰禱告呢? So to whom do they pray? 向自己禱告 To themselves 結果他們不能向自己禱告 But they can't pray to themselves 因為他們是神所造的人 For they are made by God 他們在佛祖面前燒香 They would pray to gautama buddha 他們向gautama buddha Śākyamuni禱告 To pray to Śākyamuni 這是完全違背佛祖自己的教義的 But it is against Śākyamuni's own teaching 那麼印度教徒向誰禱告呢? And Hindu? 印度教的神有三萬萬六千萬個 They have three hundred and six million Gods 你不要說敬拜 Don't talk about pray 如果你能把他們名字找出來 Just remembering the name 一個一個念,念到死還沒有唸完 Til the day your die, you can not finish reading the name 三萬萬六千萬個神 They are like three hundred and six million Gods 那麼這個神跟我的關係是什麼呢 So what the relationship do you have 這個神是木頭,這個神是石頭 The God can be wood, can be stone 這個神是牛,神是蟑螂 Can be a cow, can be a cockroach 神是飛鳥,神是狐狸 Can be a bird, can be a fox 神是所有的動物 Can be any livig being 很可憐的,人墮落禱這個地步 So it's most sad, then you have fallen so much 那麼你說:「世界上有沒有拜一個天父這樣的神呢 ?」 Is there a religion that would pray to a father? 只有希臘的一個詩人曾經講過一句話 A greek poet once said 「We are all born of you」 「我們是從祢而生的」 我們都是從祢而生的 所以這一句話的隱喻,就是有一位神是我們的父 So implicitly there is a God who is our father 但是這個人叫做Cleanthes But his name is Cleanthes (克里安西斯,331-232 BC, 斯多亞派哲學家,學習哲學前是個拳擊手) Cleanthes詩裡面我去查了 I have read his poems 他在第二段的後面有一句話說 The second part of his poem says 「我們是從祢而生」 所以保羅就在使徒行傳第十七章 引用Cleanthes的一句話 And act seventeen Paul used his words 正如你們詩人說 Like your poet said 我們都是由祂所生的 We have been born of him 但是他從來沒有稱這位神是父 But he has never declared this God as a father 直到耶穌基督到世界上來的時候 And when Jesus came to the earth 祂講這句話 And he told us this 你們禱告,要如此說「我們在天上的父」 Pray like this, in this manner:"Our father in heaven" 親愛的弟兄姊妹們 猶太人模糊父的觀念 The Jews are vague in the concept of father 所以當耶穌說 So when Jesus said 你們的父不是亞伯拉罕的時候 Your father is not Abraham 他們說:「是 They say "yes 亞伯拉罕是我們的父。」 Abraham is our father" 耶穌說:「你們的父不是上帝 。」 Jesus said "Your father is not God" 他們混雜的回答 And their answers were confused 他們模糊的敷衍 And confused in their understanding 耶穌給他們下一個結論 And Jesus give them a conclusion 你們的父不是上帝 Your father is not God 你們的父不是亞伯拉罕 我們的父是亞伯拉罕 They said our father is Abraham 耶穌說:「如果亞伯拉罕是你們的父 Jesus said "If Abraham was your father 你們早就到我這裡來 You would come towards me 因為當你們的父亞伯拉罕見我的時候 Because when your father Abraham met me 他就從遠處歡迎 From the far he welcome me 他接待我,你們不是如此 He took care of me, but not so for you 當耶穌再講更重一句話的時候 And when he rebuke them further 就揭穿了整個猶太教最敗壞的東西 He exposed their decadence 你們的父是魔鬼 He said your father is the devil 為什麼這樣說呢? Why did he say that? 因為猶太人沒有一個人遵行過律法 None of the Jews fulfill the laws 猶太人沒有一個人親近過上帝 None of them walk towards God 你們用嘴唇親近我 Then you come across me with your lips 你們的心遠遠離開我 But your heart is far away from me 所以你們拜我是枉然的 So you worship in vain 我恨惡你們的安息日 I hate your sabbath 我厭煩你們的自由 I am sick of the facts 你們月望、月朔所獻的祭,我都已經看厭了 And all your sacrifice on the moon and seasons I am sick of it 以色列人得到的律法,他們去遵行嗎? The Israelite had the laws, did they follow it? 他們沒有遵行,怎麼知道以色列人沒有遵行呢? They did not, how do we know this? 彼得在使徒行傳第十五章講一句話 Act chapter fifteen Peter says 原來從我們的祖宗到我們這裡 沒有一個人遵行過律法 From ancestors to now, none have fulfilled the law 那麼這些宗教再做什麼呢? So what are the religion do it? 他們在搞什麼呢? What are they doing? 他們建立什麼呢 ? What are they building? 他們都在建立自己的功勞 They are building their own work 所以他們十字路口大聲禱告 And so they pray loudly at the street 他們在高處揚聲禱告 And in the synagogue they pray 他要人看見他的虔誠 They want to let people to see 他們要人看見他們親近上帝 They want people to see they are close to God 他們的宗教是以自私做出發點的 Their faith is build on selfishness 是榮耀自己做出發點的 To glorify themselves 所以耶穌說 So Jesus said Not Abraham Your father is the devil 有人像耶穌這樣勇敢批判,這樣勇敢講話 Jesus was so brave in rebuking them 祂沒有別條路可走,一定要被殺死 被釘在十字架上 His final conclusion must be crucifixion 因為祂講的是真理 For he spoke the truth 人喜歡真理嗎? Do we like truth? 人不喜歡聽真理 We don't like to listen to the truth 人喜歡聽實在的話嗎? Do we want to hear words of truth? 我們不喜歡聽實在的話 We don't like it 我們喜歡聽好話 We want to listen to good things 我們喜歡聽甜蜜的話 Sweet things We don't want to listen to the truth 上帝看全世界人 When God look at us 可惡、可悲、可憐 We are despicable, we are sad, we are pathetic 現在我告訴你 I tell you now 有了子的也就有了父(參 約一2:3) Those who has the son had father 沒有子的就沒有父 Those who has not the son, nor the father 認識子的,就認識父 Those who know the son, know the father 不認識子的,就不認識父 Those who do not know the son, do not know the father 我來把父顯明給你們看 I have came to manifest father 我就是道路,我就是真理(參 約14:6) I am the way,the truth 我就是生命 And the life 若不藉著我,沒有人能到父那裡去 No one goes to the father except through me 我從父出來到了世界(參 約16:28) I've come from father to the world 我要離開世界,往父那裡去 And I'll leave the world to the father 你們在世界找不到父 You can not find the father in the world 因為在宗教裡面沒有父 You have no father in the religions 在我裡面有父 But in me you'll find the father 回教徒可蘭經的第一章 九十九個上帝的名稱 In the first chapter of Koran the word "God" appear 99 times 什麼最好的名稱都歸到上帝身上 All the most beautiful descriptions 但是只有九十九,少了一個 99, short 1 那一個名字呢?天父 Which word?Father in Heaven 回教徒不能稱上帝為天父 The Muslim can not call God "the Father in Heaven" 因為上帝不給他這個權柄 For God did not give them this privilege 上帝把這個權柄賜給誰呢? And this privilege is given to 賜給信靠耶穌基督的人 Those who believe in Jesus Christ 約翰福音第一章第十二節告訴我們 John chapter 1 Verse 12 says 凡接待祂的,就是信祂名的人 To all who take on His Name, would believe in His Name 祂就賜給他們權柄,做上帝的兒女 He give them the power, to become children of God 保羅在羅馬書八章十五節告訴我們 Roman chapter 8 verse 15 我們不是領受了奴僕的心 Paul says we do not receive heart of slaves 我們是領受了兒子的靈 But the Spirit of the Son 所以接待耶穌基督的 And so those who welcome Jesus 是接待耶穌的靈 Welcome Spirit of Jesus 耶穌的靈就是基督的靈,基督的靈就是上帝的靈 And the Spirit of Jesus is Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God 上帝的靈就是聖潔的靈 And the Holy Spirit 因為聖父、聖子、聖靈 God of Father, Son and Holy Spirit 上帝把祂的兒子賜給我們 God has gave us His Son 讓兒子成為我們的長兄 The Son becomes our elder brother 引導我們一同成為祂的兒女 To guide us to become children of God 藉著聖靈重生我們 Through the Holy Spirit we will reborn 所以聖靈是兒子的靈 And the Spirit is the Spirit of Son 兒子的靈進到我們裡面的時候 And when the Spirit of Son come to us 我們就稱為神的兒女 We become His children 我們就稱祂為阿爸天父 We call him Abba Father 這是真正禱告的開始 This is the true beginning of prayer 各種宗教裡面沒有真正的禱告 No true prayers can be found in other religions 因為宗教裡面人用禱告建立功勞,更離開上帝 We use prayers for own use and depart away from God even further 因為全本聖經告訴我們 The entire Bible tells us 上帝說 God says 不是我的子女的 Those who do not belong to Me 我要使他們成為我的子女 I would make them to My children 我要使自己成為他們的父 I would be their Father 舊約是如此,新約是如此 The old testament say that, the new testament say that 新約實際的行動賜下來 And in the new testament, the action was done 父把子賜下來 The Father gives us the Son 把萬有交給子 And gives the Son all things 使子稱為眾子的長子 Let The Son become Firstborn among us all 使我們與基督一同成為後嗣 Together with Christ we inherit from God 使我們在基督裡面一同成為上帝的兒女 Then we become children of God in Christ 兒子的靈進到我們的心裡面 The Spirit of the son come to us 我們就呼求「阿爸天父」 Then we can call Abba Father, Father in heaven 用這一句話開始你的禱告 And start your prayer this way 耶穌說 Jesus say 你們禱告的時候,要這樣說 When you pray, pray like this Our Father in heaven 這關係多麼親密 This is such a close relationship 我是祂的孩子,是祂所愛的 I am His child, He loves me 祂是我的天父,有血緣關係 He is my Father in Heaven, there is a blood relationship 有親屬關係 There is a reality relationship 上帝竟然成為我的父親 The God become relative to become my Father 我竟然成為上帝的兒女 Then I have become His children 所以我們叫阿爸天父 So we call Him Abba, Abba Father 我們就篤信不移 And so we held on firm in our faith 我們放膽、放心,來到祂的面前 And be completely confident to come before Him 把我們所需要的告訴祂 To tell him what we need 祂就照著祂的應許 And by his promises 照著祂豐富的恩典 By his abundance grace 施恩寶座把祂的恩惠賜給我 From his throne of grace, he will bless us 成為我們隨時的幫助 To become our ready help 今天晚上你聆聽了這一篇 This evening, after you heard this 你覺悟了以後 After you are awaken 你再禱告的時候 When you pray again 你懇求主給你發現天父是你的父 You ask God to show you He is indeed your Father 從今以後 From now 你跟非基督徒禱告,是完全不同的本質 Your prayer would be very different from non-Christians You come before your Father 你來到你自己父的面前 Your Heavenly Father 你的天父的面前
主阿,求祢今天从祢的宝座发出亮光 照耀我们的心 使我们的思想 因为祢圣灵的引导 可以进入真理 享受丰盛的奥秘 使我们对主祷文的意义 有更深的信仰,更深的领悟 奉耶稣基督的圣名求地,阿们 Amen 我们今天开始 一连讲主祷文的信息 We now start a series of Lord's prayer 为什么这个叫做主祷文呢? Why is it called the Lord's prayer? 因为这是主耶稣亲自教导的祷告词 For it's a prayer taught personally by Jesus Christ 祷告需要教导吗? Do you need to be taught to pray? 祷告的词句需要筛选吗? Should you filter the words? 如果需要 用什么标准来选祷告的词呢? If we do, how do we decide what standard to use? 我相信很自然的,所有宗教的人 都在祷告 I think all religious people pray 因为没有祷告 就不能组成一个宗教 If you do not pray you can not be a religion 但是我再问一个问题 But I ask another question 所有宗教的祷告 是谁教导他们讲出来的呢? And who taught these other religions to pray? 都是很自然的流露 They are natural products 就是他们有什么,他们就讲出来 Whatever you think of, you pray 为什么人祷告呢? And why would we pray? 因为人发现自己的有限 Because we discover we are finite 所以走到走投无路的时候 And so when you can not find a solution 我们就需要把我们痛苦把它念出来 You want to tell of your pain 我需要有另外一个方面 可以解决我们的困难 And you want a solution from beyond 所以许多祷告的动机 是从困境、从逼迫、从贫穷、从疾病 从最困难的人生阴暗面产生出来的 And prayer produced because your pain your suffering, your illness, your diffcuties in life 而世界上没有一个人没有困难 And all of us encounter difficulties 没有一个人没有疾病 All of us get sick 没有一个人没有黑暗的日子 There is not seen a person without darkness 所以人一定会祷告 So we would surely pray 当一个人祷告的时候,要向谁祷告? But to whom should we pray? 我们要向一个比我们更有能力的 We pray to someone more powerful 能解决我们问题的 Who can solve our problem 超自然的 A supernatural 可能是个无限的 Perhaps infinite 向祂发出祷告 And we pray to him 那么这两件事配合起来 And when we put the two things together 表示我需要信仰 It means I need faith 因为有一位神可以听我的祷告 For there is a God who would listen to me 我在有限界里面 I am finite 祂在无限界里面 But he is infinite 所以当我遇到限制困难的时候 我向祂发出我里面的需要 And so when I constrained I call upon him for help 这样就变成祷告生活 这样形成起来了 And that's how you have a prayer life 几乎全世界没有一个民族 是没有祷告的 And almost all people in the world would pray 没有一个民族,是没有宗教的 You can not find a race without a religion 因为神造人的时候 就把人造在与祂永存 相对的暂时性里面 Because when God created human beings he created temporal and related to God 所以上帝是永恒的 And God is eternal 我们在肉身中间是暂时的 Physically we are temporal 但是我们的肉身不等于我们的全部 But we are not configured by the physical 所以上帝把永恒的本质放在我们的里面 And God place essence of the eternity inside of us 我们在永恒跟暂时的交界的中间 And we are at the crossroad of the eternal and temporal 我们发现限制是一个事实 And we discover there are limitations 我们发现矛盾是一个挣扎 Then irony is struggles 所以宗教的动机就要 冲破限制、脱离矛盾 And so religion wants to break through all these constrains 因为人都会祷告 Therefore we all can pray 那这样的祷告 到底是不是神所喜悦的祷告呢? But are these prayer pleaseing to God? 祷告的人根本不问这个问题 The person who pray will not ask question like that 我只要向一个神明祷告 All I need to do is pray to a god 祂如果能够应验我要的 And if he can give me what I want 祂可以赐下我求的 And give me what I ask 我就把祂当作我们的神 Then I will pray to him 如果祂不能听我的祷告 But if he should fail 完全没有力量 No power 我就丢弃这种神 Then I get rid of him 所以在这样的状况中间 And in this situation 人变成主动淘汰神明的主体 We become the one that would get rid of Gods 人变成主动选择神明的主体 And the initiative is with us and we choose 所以神在这样的地位中间 是一个被动的地位 In this case the Gods are like objects 那我们就照着这样的习惯 过了我们宗教的生活 And we live life like that habitually 所以严格的说起来 人是很可怜很可怜的 Strictly speaking we are in a very sad state 当我们求的时候 When we call 我们盼望全能者可以解决我的问题 We want a solution from the almighty 所以我们一定要产生一个有全能者 成为我信仰的对象 So you must have this concept that he is almighty 但是这个全能者是管制我的 But this almighty would rule over me 只有在祷告的中间我要管制祂 But in prayer, I want to rule over him 祢是全能的 You are almighty 所以祢医治我 So you must heal me You are all powerful 祢要带领我经过困境 You must deliver me 祢要解决我贫穷的问题 Solve my poverty 因为祢是全能的 Because you are the almighty 祢可以做这个事情 You can do this 现在听我的话,替我做吧 Now listen to what I say 一方面祷告的人相信上帝的全能 So on the one hand we believe God can do all things 一方面盼望他自己的能力来捆绑上帝 来利用上帝 成全他对全能者的要求 But the other hand we want to make use of God to fulfill our needs 所以这是很可怕的事情 And this is most horrified 我们看见今天许多的宗教 香火会盛起来 In many religion they become very prosperous 因为他们认为他们的神明听了他们的祷告 Because they think they are dignity will listen to them 所以他们为了感恩的意思 所以他们就建庙、建堂 来荣耀他们的神 I need an appreciation for that you build temples 那这样的事是宗教常看见的事 You see this commonly in religions 但是在基督教里面是完全不同的 But Christianity is different 因为在所有宗教里面 Among all religions 只有在基督教告诉我们 我们应当怎样祷告 Only Christianity tells us how to pray 我们向谁祷告 And to whom should we pray 我们用怎样的态度来祷告 And what's the altitude we must have 而这些祷告就在圣经的记载 从亚当直到世界末日 很多伟大的祷告词,记载下来 And the Bible record many great prayers from Adam to the end of the world 也告诉我们,许多神听了祷告 所做的事情 And also tell us how God response to our prayer 自从道成肉身,耶稣降生以后 After Jesus Christ came in the flesh 祂就讲:“你们祷告,应当这么说…” (参 太6:9) He said:“this is the way you should pray…” 意思就是说,我们常常祷告 不应当祷告的话语 In other words there are many times we pray needlessly 需要很大的纠正 We need to be corrected 我个人也感觉到教会的复兴 需要从祷告的正统来复兴起 Personally I think the church can be revived when the prayer is revived 因为如果我们的祷告不是不正统的 If our prayers are not orthodox 我们就像外邦人那样祈求 Like a gentile we called upon the God 耶稣在马太福音第六章这一段里面 In the passage in Matthew chapter six 先提到你们祷告的时候 Jesus Christ first said:“when you pray 不要站在路口 Do not stand on the roadside 你不要站在高台 Or on the synagogue 因为这些人祷告 盼望别人听见他们怎么祷告 These people pray and they want people to notice them 他们盼望别人看见他们怎么敬虔 Let people see how pious they are 这些人已经得了他的赏赐 Jesus said they've received their rewards 换一句话,什么意思呢? 他们祷告没有用 Their prayers were useless 因为神不会赐给他们任何的福份 God will not give them any blessings 因为他们祷告参杂的动机 盼望人称赞他、盼望人尊重他 盼望人荣耀他 For their motives is build their want praises from other people 他们完全失去了祷告的意义 Completely miss the meaning 耶稣再说:“你们祷告不要像外邦人。” (参 太6:7) And Jesus said:“do not pray like a gentile” 他们常常重复祷告的词句 Because they heap empty phrases 因为他们想“话多就蒙垂听了” They assume when they go on and on God will listen 这是完全错误的事情 This is wrong 你注意新派的人 The Liberals 他们祷告的时候 他们不会用“主耶稣”这个字 They wouldn't use the word "Lord Jesus" when they pray 你注意灵恩派的人 When you listen to Charismatic 他们叫耶稣、耶稣、耶稣 Jesus、Jesus、Jesus 很少用“主耶稣”这个字 They always use the word "Jesus" very seldom "Lord" 他们把这个祷告词一直重复、一直重复 And they think if they keep repeating themselves 好像他们的上帝是耳聋的 As if God is deaf 所以他们要唤醒上帝 So you gonna to wake him up 使上帝醒过来 After he awake 做祂好像忘记做的事情 He would the things that he has forgoten 所以他们先假设自己是主动的 So we assume first we are in control 上帝是被动的 And God is passive 所以这个沉睡、被动、忘记,懒惰的上帝 我们要去提醒祂 And you got to remind this God who is lazy, sleeping and forgetful 这个在我们纯正的信仰里面 是完全没有道理 而且非常可羞耻的事情 In our pure faith, this is most shameful and unreasonable 有一次我在台北讲道的时候 Once I was speeching in Taipei 会众先唱诗 The people sang first 唱诗里面有一句,我吓了一跳 And one of the statements astonished me 他说:“我们祷告、祷告 我们摇动上帝的手,叫祂做工。” And the song said "We pray and pray we move the hands of God" 换我上台了 And when I spoke 我说:“你们在唱什么? I said "what were you singing? 你们的意思,你不祷告,上帝就不做工吗? You are saying if you do not pray and God would not work? 你的意思,上帝睡觉,你唤醒祂吗? And God is sleeping so you wake him up 你是谁? Who are you? 你认识你的上帝又是谁?” And what kind of God do you know?” 所以祷告跟信仰有很重要的关联 And therefore prayer is very relative to faith 祷告跟纯正的观念 有很重要的关联 Very related to pure understanding 信仰中间哪一种事 是我们非常需要更正的呢? And there are things in our faith we need to correct urgently 就是正确的神论 The correct doctrine of God 真正认识神到底是谁 You truely want to know who God is 真正相信祂 And truely believe in him 你才能祷告 Then you can pray 这样我回到归正神学来看祷告的神学 Returning to reform theology 保罗说:“若不信,你怎么能求呢?”(参 罗10:14) The apostle Paul said unless you have faith, you can't ask 注意听,“若不信,你怎能求呢?” If you do not have faith, how can you ask? 今天灵恩派的人叫那些不信的人 “你信,你求,上帝就给你。” The Charismatic said : "if you believe God will give whatever you want" 只要你恳切的求 So just ask firmly 只要你相信的求 Just believe 上帝一定成全你所求的 God will give what you want 那么这些人还没有信主 But some of them are not Christians 他们还没有听道 They don't hear the word 他们就盼望他的病得医治 They want to be healed 所以问他:“你信不信?” So you ask him : “do you believe?” 他说:“我信。” They say : "yes" “你求。” "Call" 他们凭什么求呢? Call he what? 保罗说:“不行的。” Paul says : "no" 如果这些人没有信心,他怎么祈求呢? If they don't even have faith, how would they call? 所以祈求,是建立在纯正的信仰上面 And the prayer is built on pure faith 而信仰是建立在垂听上帝的道里面 And pure faith is built on the word of God 如果你没有听道,你怎么能信心呢? How can you have faith if you have not listen 如果没有信心,你们怎么能祷告呢? And without faith, how can you pray? 一阶接连一阶的时候 And so one is link to the other 主阿!我要信祢 Oh Lord, I want to believe 我才能好好在祢面前祷告 Then I can pray properly 主阿,我要听祢祷告 Lord I want to listen to your word 我才能建立信仰 Then I can build up my faith 因为信道是从? Because faith comes 什么? 信到从听道来的 From hearing 如果你没有听上帝的道,你怎么会信呢? So how can you believe if you do not hear his word? 如果你没有信,你怎么会求呢? If you do not believe, how can you call? 信产生求 And so faith creates prayer 听产生信 By hearing creates faith 但是传,产生听 But you need someone to preach before you can listen 若没有人传道,谁能听道呢? So if there are no preachers, who will hear? 所以进到第四步里面了 And so there are forth stages 祷告的基础是信仰 The foundation of prayer is faith 信仰的基础是听道 The foundation of faith is listening 听道的基础是传扬上帝的福音 And the fact you can listen is because someone preach 然后传道的基础是神的差遣 And you preach because God sent you 然后这五件事连起来的时候 When five items are linked together 结论就是神的主权,决定人的宗教生活 Conclusion is that sovereign will of God decide your life in religion 祢呼召人做传道 When God calls someone to be a preacher 因为这些人把真理传开了 These people will then preach the truth 因为这些人把道传开了 And because they preach the truth 人就听见上帝的话 We can hear the truth 因为人听见上帝的话 And because we heard the truth 就产生了信心 We produce faith 因为人有了信心 And when we have faith 那么他们才在上帝面前祷告 Then we can pray to God 从这个归正神学的系统来看 This is a reform structure 整个世界的宗教都是乱祷告的 You would see that all religions pray haphazardly 二十多年前 Twenty over years ago 在台湾有很多人拜一些古里古怪的东西 In Taiwan, people pray to all kinds of strange things 给他们的假神作一个用木头、石头 或着砖瓦、陶器做的形象 They used wood, they used stone to make idols 他们放在他们的桌子上 And then put them on the table 他们就天天求这些东西 And everyday they pray 当结果祷告没有应验的时候 But when your prayers didn't come true 他们就把这些神像把它摔破了 They would break the idols 你看这是何等讽刺的事情 This is most ironic 当你祷告的时候,你认它是神 When you pray, you consider they were the God 当你得不到祷告的垂听 你把它当作粪土来丢掉 But if they do not answer then they become rubbish 这是人祈祷最可怕的事情 This is most horrifying we do pray 我们到神面前不是尊重祂 When we come before God is not you honor him 我们到神面前不是荣耀祂 It's not you gonna glorify him 我们到神的面前也不是感谢祂 It's not to give thanks to him 我们是利用上帝成全我们的需要 But we come to him so that he can do what I want 所以在祷告的中间,我们命令上帝替我们做事 In prayer we command him to work for us 但祷告的时候我们吩咐祂做我们的仆人 And we order him to be our servant 所以圣经给我们的教导完全不一样 The Bible teach us complete differently 我们如果没有从正统的信仰 得到了正统的观念 我们的祷告 一定像外邦人一样的糊涂 And if we do not have orthodox understanding from orthodox faith we would pray like a gentile 我们有正统的信仰以后 But we have orthodox faith 我们才照着正统信仰的内容 懂得怎样谦卑,俯伏在上帝面前,向祂祈求 Then with the correct understanding of this faith we know how to humbly call upon God 亲爱的弟兄姐妹 Dear brothers and sisters 为什么人需要祷告? Why do we need to pray? 因为上帝造人的时候 是按照祂自己的形象样式造 For God created us in his image and likeness 所以人是唯一能够与神有相对存在 觉悟的一个活物 Among all living beings, we are the only one live in response to God We are the only being with consciousness of the relativity between us and our creator 所以上帝是我们创造的主 And God is our creator 我们是被造的一个人 And we are creatures 而上帝为我们造了万有 And God for us creates all things 使万有供应我们的需要 And we maybe sustained by all things 上帝又创造我们 And God created us 使我们来到祂的面前 Then we would come before him 所以万有是为人造的 So all things have been created for men 人是为上帝造的 And we have been created for God 我再讲一次,然后你们把它背起来 I say again You got to remember this 万有是为人造的 All things were created for men 人是为上帝造的, 1、2、3 And man is created for God 万有是为人造的,人是为上帝而造的 所以我们不可能活在一个与神 没有关系的存在里面 And so in a existence it is impossible not to have relationship with God 我们在神面前 Before God 我们是与祂相对的 We live relative to him 这个叫做相对的对存 This is a relative existence 不是一个绝对的独存 Not an absolute singular existence 没有一个人是绝对的独存 Not a single one of us live by ourselves 我们都是与神相对的对存 We live in relative to God 那我们与神之间的关系 Our relationship with God 是按照神所订的原则 正式建立起来的时候 When it is built base on God's principle 我们的生命才有价值 Then there is meaning in your life 我们与祂的关系才会恢复正常 And then our relationship is normalized with him 这样我们的祷告也变成蒙悦纳的祷告 And our prayer will be heard 如果不是这样的话 If this would not a case 我们把无当作我们的主 We will treat objects as our Lord 把主当作我们的奴 And consider our Lord as our slave 我们利用上帝来追求物质 And we use God to get what we want 这就是假的宗教 This is false religion 这就是假的教会 A false church 这就是假的基督徒 False Christians 因为神在你的祷告生活里面,是被利用者 For God is been made used by you 然后呢,在祷告生活中 你追求的是被造为我们存在的物质 And in your prayer, you want the material that God has made for you 我们利用神来达到目的 We use God to fulfill our need 而我们的目的不是神 And our purpose is not God 我们的目的是物质 Our purpose is material 所以我们把这个次序把它颠倒过来 The entire order is upside down 这样我们越祷告,就越离开上帝 The more you pray, the farther you are from God 当你看见很多人很恳切祷告的时候 You look at people pray firmly 从外面看你很敬虔 On the surface, they are pious 你很佩服他 And you say this a good thing 许多的宗教都有令人佩服的敬虔外貌 In all religions there are pious people 但是耶稣基督不是如此 But Jesus said not so 因为这些人好像用嘴唇亲近我 With their lips, it seems to have come close to me 但是他们的心远远离开我 But their heart is far away from me 所以他们拜我是枉然的 They worship me in vain 当这些人很敬虔的祷告的时候 And when we look someone pray firmly 他们看起来他们是很亲近上帝 On the surface, they looks close to God 其实不是的 In reality, no 我八岁的时候 When I was eight 教会的祷告会里面 In a church prayer meeting 很多人常常坐在我旁边听我祷告 Many people sit besides me to listen me pray 但有一次呢,我要听另外一个人祷告 But once I heard somebody else pray 为什么呢?Why? 因为那个人祷告得很恳切 Because this person was very firm 也有一点声音 And has some noise 而且很长 Very long prayer 人家阿们,他还在祷 People are amen, but he is still praying 他阿们,有的人已经睡了 When he go for amen, people slept 所以我就靠近他,听他怎么祷告 So I went close to him, listen to what he said 当我听他祷告的时候 When we heard him 我发现太令人失望了 I was very disappointed 因为他祷告什么呢? You know what he prayed for? 主阿给我发财 Oh, Lord make me rich, oh Lord make me smooth 主阿给我顺利,主阿给我成功 Give me success, Make my child success 主阿给我的孩子可以成就 给我的孩子生意做的好 Let their business progress 都是用自私做中心,在上帝面前祷告 And before God everything is self center 我在听祂祷告的时候 And when I heard him 说那个人不好,你要刑罚他 They said : "Oh God, punish that guy" 你要咒诅他 Curse him 你要审判他 Judge him 你要教训他 And teach him a lesson 我后来发现 And I discover 这个人心充满自私的爱,跟仇敌的恨 This guy has selfish loving and sense of vengeance 那么他把这个自私的爱跟复仇的恨 放在祷告中间的时候 他到底是不是知道 上帝要人怎么祷告呢? And when he pray for himself and cursing other people I don't know whether he knows what prayer is 所以他的祷告不是祷告 是自私的精神的表达 And their fault is not really a prayer but an expression of selfish spirit 这是很可怕的事情 And it is most horrifying 所以我们到底应当怎么祷告 So how then should we pray? 祷告不在乎你恳切不恳切 It is not about how firm you are 祷告在乎你知道纯正的信仰做你祈求的基础 It is dependent on whether you know it is based on your pure faith 若不信,怎么能祈求呢? If you have no faith, how can you pray? 圣经里面给我们看见,最敬虔的祷告的外貌 And the Bible shows us on the surface how pious prayers should be 最狂热的祷告 The most firm prayer 是谁的祷告呢? Who's prayer is that? 不是耶稣的祷告 Not Jesus 不是扫罗的祷告 Not Saul 不是彼得的祷告 Not Peter 圣经里面最狂热、火热、最殷勤的祷告 是假先知的祷告 The most zealous prayer recorded in the Bible are not false prophets 当以利亚在迦密山 他要复兴以色列国人的信仰的时候 And so Elijah wanted to revive the faith of the Israelite 他就跟四百个的巴力的先知一同较量 There were four hundred false prophets of Baal that he face 他是最少数的 And he was like most only one 他只有一个人 面战四百个假先知 Facing four hundred false prophets 他心灵感到很孤单 And Elijah felt lonely 但是以利亚在最孤单的时候,他没有惧怕 But he was not afraid even though he was lonely 因为他以耶和华是他的主 Because God is his Lord 所以他对亚哈王说 So he said to king Ahab “这几年 “These few years 我指着永生的神耶和华启示 By the name of the eternal God 我若不祷告,就没有雨水降在地上来。” I make a oath that if I do not pray there will be no rain。” 传道人讲话这么可怕 这么伟大的confidence 除了他以外,几乎没有第二个 Other than him, no other preacher has such confidence 如果他讲了以后,第二天下雨 If it rains in very next day 他不是前功尽废了吗? Then he will feel misery 但是神与他同在 But God was with him 因为他讲的话是神启示下来的 For God reveal what he should say 所以那一天开始 That day was 我不祷告下雨的事情 He said if I do not pray for rain 所以三年半的时间上帝没有降下水 Three and half years they had drought 那个时候全国最需要的是什么呢? And the thing they need most 全国最需要的就是雨水 Would be rain water 但是他在迦密山时候 But when he was in mountain Carmel 他对假先知说: He said to the false prophets: “你们祷告你们的神 “You pray to your God 叫祂降下火来 Ask them to send fire 烧掉你们祭坛上的牲物 To burn out the sacrifice on altar 我也祷告我的神 And I will pray to my God 求祂降下火来 And asking him for fire 烧掉我祭坛上的祭物。” To consume the sacrifice。” 所以就订了时间 And so they set the time 你们从几点到几点 From this time to that time 结束以后,如果没有,就轮到我 After that, if there is no, then my turn 然后我几点到几点 我祷告我的上帝 I will call upon my God 他们都赞成了 And they all agree 所以四百个巴力的先知 They are four hundred false prophets 站在另外一边 They stood one side 以利亚自己一个人,站在这一边 Elijah himself stood on the other side 四百对一 Four hundred versus one 这是何等不平衡的事情 Very imbalance 当千千万万以色列百姓 And thousands of Israelite 围在山上观望战斗 Surrounded the mountain to see the fight 当圣经告诉我们 The Bible tells us 假先知恳切祷告、祷告 The false prophets pray firmly 火不降下来 Fire didn't come 再祷告 They prayed again 火又不降下来 再祷告,火还是不下来 And they prayed again, no fire 后来怎么办呢? What do they do? 他们用石头砍自己 They used rocks to pierce themselves 用刀刺自己 And cut themselves by knife 巴力呀!巴力呀! Baal!Baal! 听我们的祷告 Listen to us 把火降下来吧 Send us fire 你是保护我们的,你是伟大的神 You are, you are a great god 现在赐下祷告 Give us fire 会不会因为他的声音特别大声 巴力就做事情? Could it be they are so loud so their God would work? 会不会因为他们祷告特别恳切 就感动了巴力,行动呢? Maybe they are so firm, their God would be moved Nothing like that happen 没有这样的一件事情 假神就是假神 The false God is the false God 因为假神的祷告是对假神的祷告 The prayer is to false God 假神没有办法给你真正的力量 The false God has no power 所以他们就伤了自己 So although they hurt themselves 他们努力祷告 And pray firmly 恳切祷告以后 and call 完全没有任何迹象,有火降下来 Nothing happen, no fire happen 以后怎么办呢? And then what? 以后以利亚对他说: Elijah said to them: “大声一点吧 “Shout louder 你们的神可能去走走 Maybe your God is walking around 他们到mall去买东西 Maybe went to the mall to shop 那些神忘记你们在祷告 They forget you are praying call him louder 大声的呼叫吧 大声一点吧!” Call louder!” 以利亚下一个讽刺性的呼吁 And Elijah was sarcastic to them 他们更大声的祷告 So they call even louder 还是没有 And still nothing happen 以利亚就讲了一句很俏皮的话 And Elijah said something naughty 你们的神片刻休息 Maybe your God is resting 其实那一句话可以翻译成: “你们的神可能去小便” And actual you can said "your God went to take a pee" 所以祂现在不再这里,在厕所那里 So he is in the toilet actually 你大声叫祂回来吧 Maybe call him louder 所以他们更大声祷告 So they call loud stronger 时间到了 But when the time was up 以利亚说:“你们的机会结束了” Elijah said "the time is up" 然后以利亚说: Elijah say: “上帝的百姓阿 “The people of God 你们来到我这里来 Come to me People of God, come on to me 上帝的百姓,来到我这里 他把他们带到这边的祭坛 And he brought them to his altar 牲畜已经预备好了 And the sacrifice was on it 已经绑在这个祭坛上面 Already tied there 然后以利亚做了一件世人认为最笨的事情 And Elijah did something which people consider most stupid 有三年半没有下雨 For three and half years with no rain 所以今天整个国家最贵的不是黄金 And so the most expensive thing would not be gold 最贵的是水 It would be water 以利亚说:“请把水拿来,浇在这个祭坛上” Elijah said "trench the whole thing with water" 谁听这个话呢,都是笨人 People who follow this are quite foolish 只有疯子才把剩下一点点的水把它丢掉 You would be crazy to throw away the precious water 但神的工作就是如此 But this is the way God was 神的仆人像疯子一样的 Servants of God sometimes look crazy 每一个时代,有那些真正为上帝的工作 行动特别怪异的时候,人都会逼迫他 And people persecute servants of God that act strange 但神特别保守以利亚 But God preserve Elijah 所以他把他们浇水,来倒的时候 And so when he ask to trench the sacrifice 倒了一次,花了很多的水 Once a lot of water, second time, again 倒了第二次,再倒下去 第三次,再倒下去。第四次,再倒下去 Third time, forth time 那是全国可能所剩下的一点水 Perhaps it's the only water they have left 那这个水一定是要先给王用的 The king would have it first 百姓死算什么? The king would not care about people 王一定先保守自己 The king will preserve himself 像现在的北朝鲜 Like north Korea now 当全国没有饭吃的时候 When all country is in famine 你把粮食寄去拯救他们的百姓 And if you send money to that country 他们一定先给共产党的军队吃饱,不给百姓 They would first feed the army 让平常的人死在满街道,也不要紧 To let common folks die 所以以利亚把这些水用完了以后 And so after Elijah use out of this water 他说:“people of God come on to me。” “上帝的子民过来我这里。” 然后他抬头说 And then he look up “God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob “亚伯拉罕、雅各跟以撒的上帝 Please show to them that you are God 让他们知道祢是上帝 And let them know I am your servant。” 而我是你的使者。” 他就祷告两件事情 So he pray for two things 亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各的上帝 The God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac 祢是向以色列人立约的上帝 You are God of covenant with Israelite 现在以色列人离开了祢 The Israelite have left you 他们又随从亚哈王 And they had followed king Ahab 坏的政治领袖 A bad king 引诱他们过一个邪恶、抵挡祢的生活 Lure them into a life against you 现在我的百姓到这里来 Now come over to me, my people 我向你们求你们列祖的上帝 I will call upon your God of your ancestors 主阿,求祢告诉祢的百姓 Oh God, tell your people 祢是真实的上帝 That you are the God in Israel 求祢告诉他们 And also the people 我是祢的仆人 I am your servant 这两句话的祷告很感动我一生 This influence my entire life 我常常站在讲台 I am always in the podium 我常常传道 And preach 我传福音的动机是什么? What is the motive of my preaching? 我要我们的听众知道,神是神 我是祂派来的仆人 I want the people to know that God is God and I am his servant 为什么神是神? Why do we say God is God? 因为祂立约了 Because he has covenant 祂纪念祂所立的约 He remember the covenant he set 祂诚信真实的上帝 He is a faithful God 祂是永远不改变的上帝 A God eternally will not change 祂是永永远远的上帝 He is an eternal God 祂的诚实、祂的永恒、祂的不变 His faithfulness, his eternity, his immutability 成为祂所立的约的一个基础 Becomes a foundation of covenant 主阿,求祢纪念祢的约 Oh Lord, remember your covenant 纪念祢对祢的仆人,亚伯拉罕 以撒、雅各所立的约 Remember what you say to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob 使祢的百姓知道祢是上帝 And let people know you are God of Israel 也知道我是祢的仆人 And I am your servant 他讲完这一句话以后 After he said that 天上的火就降下来 Fire came from heaven 把祭牲完全烧尽了 And consume all their offering 那个木台已经很多水在里面了 And there is already wet 怎么容易烧尽呢? How would they be consumed? 因为火太大了 It was because fire was fierce 我请问你在三年半没有雨水以后 为什么求火,不是求雨呢? After three and half years why he asked for fire, and not rain? 这都是反常的 These are all unusual 这都是反心理学的 Against what we expect 这跟社会舆论完全不一样的 Different from common ideas 神的工作就是这样 But this is the way of God's works 当一个人真正明白神的心意 When a person truly know the heart of God 一个真正不是讨人的喜欢的时候 And not be pleasing to men 他的行动虽然怪异 Although his action seems strange 但他的祈求是出于神的感动 But he is call upon God from God 他所祷告的对象是真正又真又活的上帝 And the object called in his prayer is a true living God 神就成全了 And God will listen to him 如果我们好好研究祷告的神学 If we study the theology of prayer carefully 我们可能几十天还讲不完 You could spend many days 但是神就在圣经里面启示 这样的祷告才是真的祷告 And God reveal the true prayer to us in the Bible 今天我们对上帝的祷告是怎样的祷告呢? What kind of prayer we have towards God? 你一方面是假借上帝的全能的这个名称 On the one hand we make you is almighty 逼祂,照着祂的全能 行你管制祂、你吩咐祂行的事情 You want to force God to do what you want 祢不是全能的吗? Are you not almighty? 祢作这件事吧 Then do this 如果祢全能的上帝 If you are all powerful 祢医治我孩子癌症的病 Heal my child's cancer 如果祢是全能的 If you are almighty 祢使我快快发财 You must give me money 如果祢全能的 使我可以得到更大的享受 Give me more enjoyment in my life 我们利用神是全能的作为晃子 来表达我们对神的逼迫 对神的强求、对神的利用 And we use God's almighty as excuse to display our selfishness 神不会听这样的祷告 And God would not listen to these prayers 那我们到神面前来的时候 And when we come before God 我们要把祂当作是谁,我们才能向祂祷告呢? Whom should we consider him to be? 耶稣说:“祂是天上的父。” (参 马6:9) Jesus said : "he is our father in heaven" 耶稣讲第一句话的时候 When the very first sentence 你们祷告要如此说 Pray them like this 我们在天上的父 Our father in heaven 已经讲了一句历史上从来没有人 在祷告里头提过的话 This certain something in history 你在地上,祂在天上 You are on the earth, he is in heaven 你向祂祈求的时候 When you pray to him 你应当以儿子的身份 Like a child 以谦卑的身份 With humility 以信仰的身份 With faith 尊主为大 To consider him as Lord 尊主为圣 Consider him as holy And said our father in heaven 这样才把你与神之间相对存在的本能用出来了 Then you use the relative existence between you and God 主阿,我是活在祢面前的 That God I live before you 祢是我的创造主 You are my creator 祢又是我的救赎主 And you are my savior 祢创造我,使我存在 You have created me so I existed 祢救赎我,使我成为祢的儿女 And you have saved me that made I become you child 我称呼祢是我在天上的父 And so I address you my father in heaven 祷告是一件很重要的事情 Prayer is most important 使我们在地上跟祂在天上之间 有一个生命之间的交流 It link us in life on earth to heaven 这是人的生命与神的生命一个 interpersonal relationship An interpersonal relationship between man's live and God's live 神是谁? Who is God? 神是一个最伟大的祢 God is the most greatness you 不是我们一个讨论中间的一个"他" Not someone that we just discussing 更不是我们想像的一个"它" Or an imagination object God is not an "it" 祂不是它 God is not a "him" 祂也不是他 God is a thou 祂是祢,最大的祢 The greatest thou 我面对的对象 The one I face 这叫做上帝 He is God 十九世纪丹麦的一个哲学家齐克果讲一句话 (Søren Aabye Kierkegaard,1813-1855) And Denmark philosopher Kierkegaard said 他说:"God is not a topic of our discussion" 上帝不是我们讨论的一个对象 God is not a subject in our debate 或着是我们辩论中的一个东西 不是我们辩论的主题 And not a theme of our debate 不是课堂教导的一个知识 Or something you study in the classroom 不是我们讨论的一个题目 Or a topic we discuss God is the object of our worship 上帝是我们崇拜的对象 我们敬拜的对象是上帝 An the object we worship 所以祂在天上,你在地上 And so he is in heaven you are on earth 你的言语要稀少 So your words got to be few 你轻步走到祂的面前 And walked before him lightly 以敬畏的心来到祂的面前 With heart of reverence come before him 你要从用心里面最诚实的心灵来敬拜祂 With the deepest of your heart, you pray to him in truth 祷告的对象 And so the object of prayer 祷告的认识 The understanding of prayer 祷告的动机 The motive of prayer 祷告的态度 The attitude of prayer 是比你的祷告所谓的恳切火热更要紧 Is a lot more important than the zealous prayers 如果一个人对神不是真正的认识 If you do not really know God 我们对神没有真正的信仰 If you don't have true faith 我是没有资格对祂发出祷告的声音的 You really are not worth to pray to him 这个父是祢,就是在我面前活着的祢 是创造我使我存在的祢 我发现祢是存在的 祢是永远的 我不过是祢所造的一个非常卑微的活物 And this father is "you", you who has created me So before you I discover I am just very finite and small 在十九世纪的时候 In the 19th century 丹麦的齐克果从传道书 得到三个本质差异的题目 In Ecclesiastes, Kierkegaard found three important things 第一、天地之别 First, there is different between heaven and earth 第二、永恒跟暂时之别 There is a big different between eternity and temporal 第三、神人之别 And third, there is a different between God and men 你要把这三个阶层分化的很清楚 If you understand these three things God is God 上帝是上帝 God is not man 上帝不是人 Man is man 人是人 Man is not God 人不是上帝 Heaven is heaven, heaven is not earth 天国是天国,天国不是地上 Earth is earth, earth is not heaven 地上是地上,地上不是天上 Time is time 时间是时间 Eternity is eternity 永恒是永恒 齐克果读圣经跟我们不一样的 And Kierkegaard look at Bible in differently from us 他读了一段就变成很大的一个架构出来了 When he read a sentence he had a big structure coming from that 他就用了qualitative different这个字 所谓有质方面的分别 从头使我们建立对这段圣经信仰的了解 That we once again we establish our understand this way 那我们在哪里呢? Where are we then? 我们在地上 We are on the earth 上帝在哪里呢? Where is God? 祂在天上 God is in heaven 我们的肉体是什么? Physically 是暂时的活着 We are temporal 我们的灵魂是什么? What about spirit? 要面向永恒活在上帝的面前 We face the eternal God 我们今天有的是什么? What we have today? 我们有在时间的限制 We are constraint by time 我们里面又另外一个原则是什么? But there is something inside of us? 是永永远远的存在 And that's a eternal existence 所以齐克果再说 So Kierkegaard said Let God be God, let man be man 让上帝成为上帝,让人成为人 如果你知道你是人 If you know you are man 你知道祂是上帝 And he is God 你知道上帝与人之间的分别 是本质的分别,不是程度的分别 And he know the difference between God and man is qualitative, not quantitative 这个纯正的信仰 And this pure faith 所产生纯正的知识 Would produce pure knowledge 是使你能够好好的向祂祷告 Enabling you to pray properly 耶稣基督的祷告 The prayer of Jesus Christ 是一切人对神祷告的模样 Is the foundation of all prayer of mankind 是纠正我们祷告所有真理,最大的动力 Correct our prayers in the truth 圣经里面告诉我们耶稣作人的时候 The Bible says when Jesus walk the earth 祂代表你、代表我 He represent you and I 用人的身份向上帝祷告 As men he pray towards God 祂对上帝说:“圣洁的父阿” And he said to God : "Holy Father" 对上帝说:“公义的父阿” And said to God : "Righteous Father" 求祢荣耀祢的儿子 Glorify Thy Son 使祢的儿子也荣耀祢 Let Thy Son glorify Thou 所以祂祷告时候很清清楚楚的 So his prayer was most precise 怎样尊敬神,怎样尽人子得责任 How do you honor God, how do you fulfill responsibility 怎样顺服天父 How do you be obedient to your Father 请祢把这个杯挪去吧 Remove the cup 但是不要照我的意思 But not by My will 要照祢的意思 But by Thy Will 耶稣基督的祷告,跟所有宗教信徒的祷告 不同的地方 The difference between the prayer of Jesus and to all religious people 所有罪人的祷告以自己为中心的 The prayer of sinner is self center 耶稣的祷告是以神为中心的 Prayer of Jesus is God center 所有人的祷告是为自己的需要所发出祷告 Men's prayer is based on own needs 耶稣的祷告是为了神的国度、神的荣耀 跟神的权柄而祷告的 The prayer of Jesus is for God's kingdom, God's power, God's glory 所以圣经告诉我们 你们要先求上帝的国和什么?上帝的义 Say first kingdom of God and His Righteousness 你们所需要的就多多加给你们了 And what you need would be added onto you 我不是赐给你们,是加给你们 Not given to you, but added onto you 因为你们没有求以前 Because before you pray 你们所需要的,上帝都知道了 God already know what you needed 那我们如果上帝已经知道,那我们还要祷告吗? Then why should I pray? 我常常讲一些话很多人莫名其妙 Some people confused what I said 我说我没有为过钱向上帝祷告过一次 I tell people that I've not asked God for money before 我活到世界上七十四年 I've been a life 74 years 我没有求上帝给我钱一次 I've never asked God for money even once 我每一次坐汽车的时候 Every time I travel in a car 我没有祷告求主给我平安 I never pray for safety 我在世上生活的时候 When I live in my life 我没有求过上帝给我发财 I never ask God make me rich 给我幸福,给我平安 To give me bliss, to have peace 对我来说,这些我不必祷告 To me, I don't have to pray for these things 因为这些神早就知道了 Because God already knew 那么如果你问“唐牧师你祷告什么?” So you ask : "Dr. Tang what do you pray for?" 我求上帝的国,求上帝的义 I seek for the kingdom of God And his righteousness 什么叫做国呢? What does the kingdom mean? 有国防的,有系统的 It has defense, there is a system 有政府的 There is a government 有百姓的 There are people 有规律的 There is rules 有法典的 There is rule of law 这叫做国度 This is kingdom 所以我求上帝的国度的时候 When I seek the kingdom of God 我就盼望主在宝座上 I want God to be on throne 祂的子民顺服祂 Let his people obedient to him 遵行祂的诫命 To do his word 顺服祂的旨意 And be obedient to his will 使我们可以被祂使用 Then he may use us 在国度里面与祂一同征战 And in the kingdom battle with him 抵挡反对我们国度的撒但 And fight against enemy of Satan 求上帝的国 So you seek after the kingdom of God 你还要求上帝的义 And seek after his righteousness 什么叫做求上帝的义呢? What does that mean? 因为上帝的国是用义来治理百姓的原则 For God rule over people with his righteousness 撒但的国是用罪来治理牠百姓的原则 And Satan use sin to rule over his people 在神的国度里面有义的内容 In the kingdom of God there is righteousness 在撒但的国度里面有罪的内容 In the kingdom of Satan there is sin 在神的子民中间有顺从义,做义的奴仆 Among the people of God, we are all obedient to the righteousness 撒但的国度里面有顺从罪恶,做罪的奴仆 But in the kingdom of Satan, they are obedient to sin 当我们求上帝的国的时候 So when we seek after kingdom of God 我们也求上帝的义 We seek after His Righteousness 主阿祢的国、祢的义 Oh Lord Your Kingdom, Your Righteousness 充满在其中 Be fill the world 我为祢的国、祢的义,向祢祈求 And I pray to You for Your kingdom, Your Righteousness 求祢荣耀祢自己的名 Then You glorify your name 祢扩张祢自己的势力 And expand Your power 祢造就祢的儿女 And built up Your people 祢垂听祢儿女顺着祢你的旨意向祢发出的祷告 And listen to the prayer that's in the accordance to Your Will 我有些时候跟灵恩派的人坐在汽车里面 Sometimes I travel with Charismatics 他们很属灵 They are very spiritual 还没有开车以前先祷告 Before they start the engine, they pray 什么都先祷告 They pray first 我好像看他们很靠近上帝 It's seems that they are close to God 其实我看他们很怕死 But I think they are fear of dying 因为我不祷告也没有死 I didn't pray, I didn't die 我什么病我都还没有死 I have illness but I never die 我不是说我不会死 I am not saying I would never die 我死的那一天我一定死 When the day I die, I surely die 时间到了就死了 When the time come, I will die 上个礼拜我跌倒了以后 Last week I fell 礼拜三早上跌倒 I fell on Wednesday morning 八点半跌倒,十点我去讲道 8:30, At ten I preach 二十二点去吃饭 At twelve I had lunch 一点半我去找医生 1:30 I went to look a doctor 三点多才找到医生 3:00 I found the doctor 晚上再去祷告再去祷告 And night we preach 第二天回到印尼 Second day we return to Indonesia 做五个钟头的飞机 After five hours of flight 在经济舱里面 In the econimic room 动都不能动 Nowhere to turn 因为机上太多人了 Too crowded 晚上我又在讲道 At night I preach 然后就在三四天里面 Within four days 我讲了十多堂 I preach more than ten sections 我一弯腰的时候 痛得不得了 When I twist myself around is very painful 我咳嗽的时候,痛得不得了 If I was cough, very painful 后来有人说你到新加坡 So someone said go to Singapore 一定要去用X光照 You'd better go and get X ray 虽然台湾的医生说你不必照 Taiwanese doctor said no need 我还是照一照更好 But people say better go and check it 上个礼拜我讲到九点半 So last week I preach you until 9:30 我就照着医生跟我约定的,我就到了港怡医院 I went to Gleneagles Hospital after preaching to you 十点半的时候 At 10:30 照出来了 They had X ray 他说你的第十一根骨头已经不知道在哪里了 第十一根骨头已经裂了 He said there is a fracture 11 你跌的太厉害了 And you fell too badly 那怎么办呢? What do to? 裂就裂吧 Well, just a fracture 好有好的时候,裂有裂的时候 There would time to be fractured, time to be healed 第二天一早我做飞机再到台湾去 The second day I went to Taiwan 再讲道 再讲道 再讲道 And give preach, and preach, and preach 亲爱的弟兄姐妹 感谢上帝 Dear brothers and sisters, thanks be to God 我真正经历一件事 I really do experience since one day 什么呢 ?不是惧怕 Not fear 而是有信心,只要信,不要怕(参 可5:36) With faith, just believe, do not be afraid 大家说,1、2、3 “只要信,不要怕” 念的很好 有时候你们念说:“只要怕,不要信。” Sometimes you say:"just be afraid, don't believe" 所以我告诉你,我这一生,不怕危险 I tell you, in my life, I'm not afraid of danger 所以我勇敢直冲 Boldly I charge 我这一生,不怕病 In my life, I am not afraid of illness 有时候我病了我照样做飞机讲道,为什么呢? I still fly around when I was sick, why? 我相信我病了,去做飞机回来就好了 I think I'll be healed by the plant trip 我不怕累 I'm not afraid tireness 所以最多的一次,一天讲十二次道 I have twelve sections before in a day 那时候我才三十二岁 I was 32 到晚上那一场的时候 Until the evening 还是大声讲 但是很勉强 I still preach loudly But it was tough 回到家里面的时候像死人一样 When I ran home I exhaust like a dead 而且是有复活能力的死人 But I can be resurrected 所以第二天我再复活起来 And the second day I was resurrected 我不怕累,我不怕苦 I am not afraid of fatigue or difficulty 我不怕病 我不怕穷 Or illness, or property 我不怕危险 Danger 结果发生什么事呢 And in the end 病怕我,穷怕我 The illness fear me, property afraid of me 累怕我,苦怕我 fatigue afraid of me, difficulty afraid of me 我勇往直前 I just charge forward 直到今天 我感谢主 Til today, I give thanks to God 七个月前 我开了心脏 Seven month ago, I had a bypass surgery 现在好像更健康很多了 Now seems to be a lot healthy 所以我要更努力传福音 So I work harder 本来各地查经我盼望停止了 At first I wanna to stop these tour 心脏病很重了 Because I has heart problem 已经很累了 You must be very tired 但因为好了以后 But after recover 我发现可以再延长讲下去 I say let's prolonging 因为神与我同在 Because God is with me 感谢上帝 Thanks be to God 我们为什么祷告呢? Why do we pray? 因为我们需要一个永恒的“祢” Because we need an eternal Thou 我再讲一次 God is not the topic of our discussion 上帝不是我们讨论的一个课题 God is not an object of our debate 或着我们辩论的一个题目 God is not something in our understanding 或着在我们的认知里面的一样东西 God is the almighty one 上帝是全能者 The one who own our life 祂完全拥有我们的生命 Who determine our living and our death 祂决定我们的生死 神是活着的 God is living 我们来到祂面前 And when we come before him 把祂当作一个永恒的祢 成为生命相交的对象 You must see Him as an eternal Thou as a relationship with your life 二十世纪初期的时候 In the beginning of 20th century 希伯来大学有一个很著名的教授 叫做professor Dr. Martin Buber (马丁·布伯,1878-1965,奥地利犹太人哲学家) Martin Buber from Hebrew university B-u-b-e-r 你可以去google查这个名字 You can check out his naming in the google Martin Buber 在二十世纪初的时候 他受过齐克果的影响 He was influenced by Kierkegaard in twenty century 他写了一本书不到一百面 He wrote a book that is pretty short 在我知道,这是人类历史里面 写最少最薄的书 影响最大最深远的一本 In my understanding this is the most influential book by the number of pages 所以二十世纪初期 Beginning of 20th century 最大的哲学家、最大的神学家 The most great philosopher, the greatest theologian 都在这个书的影子下面发展他们的思想 Develop their thought under the shadow of this book 这本书的名字很简单 The topic is simple 有三个字 Three words I and thou 我与你 我与祢,上帝是大的祢 我与祢,这个关系 I and a thou 那么他把我这个思想分成上帝在人的过程中间 可以有三个不同的层次 He think there are three kind of process between God and us 所以当我们不认识上帝的时候 When we do not know God 把上帝当作成一个它 God is a it 把祂当作一个它 所以我们讨论的时候,这个上帝是什么东西? So when we discuss, what is this God? 这个上帝有什么心情呢? And what kind of God is? 这个上帝有什么关系呢? What kind of the relationships does it with us? 就把上帝当成它来讨论 So you discuss God as a "it" 我相信他还是受齐克果的影响 I think he has been influenced by Kierkegaard 慢慢慢慢慢慢 我就觉得上帝是活着的 不能当作it, 要当作he And so later you think God is living so he better be a he How about him 我们说祂 He is a living him 祂是活着的 He is a another him 祂是另外一个个体 He is a transcend him 祂虽然是超越性的祂 He is eternal him 是永远的祂 He still is a "him" 但是还是祂 但是当有一天你跟神的关系更密切的时候 But when you come to a closer relationship with God 你就从it 变成him 变成thou Form it to him, to thou 主阿,我来到祢的面前 That God I come before Thou 祢是我的主 Thou are my God 我的好处不在祢以外(诗16:2) I have no good apart from Thou. 现在我问你 So I ask you 你信主多久了 How long have you believed in God 上帝在你心中是一个什么 What kind of God do you believe in 是一个它,是一个祂,或着是一个祢? Is he a it, could he be a him, or is he thou? 你把祢自己跟神的关系 定位在一个怎样的情形之下呢? How do you understand the relationship 你知道不知道你活在祂的面前? Do you know that you live before him? 祂两刃利剑的眼睛射透你 His eyes is like a sharp two-edged sword 鉴察你一切心肠肺腑 He can search your heart and test the mind. 你要思念你头脑所想的一切(参 诗139) And he can know what you are thinking about 你坐下你起来,祂都看见 He can see you whether you sitting or standing 你行走你躺卧,祂都知道 Or when you walking or lying 祂也鉴察你心中所你隐藏的各样的意念 He can search you very thought 但你不觉悟 But you are not aware of this 好像单面玻璃 Like an one way mirror 你可以看见对方 对方看不见你 You can see the others, but he can not see you 新加坡的机场就有很多这样的玻璃 In Singapore airport you have a lot of one way mirrors 有一次我看见一个人对着玻璃照来照去梳头发 里面人家看他很清楚 Once I saw someone in front of the mirror but someone from the other side 但是他完全不知道 But he doesn't know that 因为他认为我可以掌握的,我知道 他不知道别人更掌握他,是他不知道 He is not aware there a lot of people behind the mirror controlling him 因为我们在神的面前如何 What about us before God 神对你是怎样的一个位格 What kind of God do you have 与神之间的关系怎样建立起来 What kind of relationship do you have 你把神当作什么? You treat God as what? 我做一个很简单的比喻 A simple illustration 因为这个比喻是我们每一个人都有经验的 There all of us have the same experience 当第一次爱上一个女孩子的时候 When you first fell in love 你当然选很漂亮的 Of course you pick a pretty girl 当然选你理想中的 Or the one in your ideal 但你的理想中的人 But the one who on your ideal 很不愿意把你当作她理想中间的人 May without be willing to response accordingly 所以你要对祂讲话 So you want to speak to her 很不好意思 But you are embarrassed 为什么不好意思呢? Why embarrassed? 因为有意思,所以不好意思 Because you have some motive 你要是对那个女孩子没有意思你就很好意思 If you don't have motive, you would speak boldly 越有意思的你就不好意思 Once you have motive. you feel embarrassed 所以你吞吞吐吐 So you stumbled 等来等去,等了好久 And you don't know how to say, you wait for long time 后来不知道吃了老虎胆 Finally become very bold 跑到她面前去 And you go before her 某某人,我有话跟、跟、跟……你说 And so you, I want to tell you something “什么话?”“特别的话。” "And she say what?" "A special word" “那就说吧” "Then say" “我、我、我告诉你” "I tell you" 他说:“我、我、我、我…” “这样还要跟我讲话,不管你了” 你要什么? What do you want? 我很想跟你作特别的朋友 I feel that we shouold be a special friend 她一猜就猜中了 And she could guess 猜中你要做什么 What you want to do 请你回去自己照相,照自己的镜子好吗 She say why don't you look at mirror yourself 你看看你自己什么样子,你要我? Look at what you look like 哇,你失恋了 And you were fall out of love 你没有办法忘记她 And you can not forget her 你也没有办法得着她 But you can not get her too 你也没有办法不得着她 But you can not let her go 又不能得着他 But you can not get her 你要忘记她,又不能忘记她 You can't even forget her 你就变成世界最孤单的存在主义者 And you become the loneliest as existentialist 你深深觉悟存在主义者 You truly understand you are existentialist 我有一个I There is a I 但没有一个thou But I don't have a thou 生命的孤独alienator You are alienator 你现在被异存化了 You are segregated and alienated from her 这个是共产党的名词,alienation,alienated Word from communism 我们怎么办呢? What do you do? 你孤单过你的生活 You live lonely 当一个人在孤单中间的时候,你就变成存在主义者了 When you are lonely, you feel like an existentialist 但是他又不愿意过长期存在主义者 But you don't want to do that too long 我要盼望做一个相对对存者 You want someone to live with 好,降低标准 So I lower my standard 选一个不太漂亮的 Pick one not so pretty 比较普通的 A more common looking girl 那么可能就有盼望了 Maybe you have hope 因为最高的要求常常带来就是泡沫 带来就是失败 The highest standard often disappoint you 找到一个有眼睛有鼻子,也是差不多的 So you find someone with eyes, with nose 再鼓起勇气 Then you try again 对他说:“我有话对你讲” And say to her:"I have something to tell you" 现在稳定了,没有我、我、我、我、我了 Now you are more steady 我有话对你讲 I have something to tell you 什么事阿? And she say what? 我喜欢你 I like you 他回答什么呢? And she said 你也不错,我也喜欢你 You are so not too bad, I also like you 你说:“好了” “Ok fine” 现在可以建立I thou relationship Now you can have I thou relationship 你还没有跟她谈的时候,你跟你的同学谈 But before you spoke to her, you told your classmate 我喜欢那个人 I like that person 你看她多漂亮,你看她多凌厉 She is pretty, and so agile 你看她多聪明,因为她有这么多的才干 Very clever, very talent 她真是做事很精明,她真是很好 She is really really capable good 从前面看很好,从后面看更好 From the front is good, from the back better 哇!因为看不到她脸更好 Without the face better 所以你跟人家谈、谈、谈,谈到最后呢 And the end 你想,我为什么要跟人家谈 Why do I talk to other people? 我要谈的不是他 I am not talking with this guy 我要谈的是这个女孩子 I should talk to the girl, right 所以更勇敢对她谈 Be more bold 她接受你了 And she accept you 自从她接受你以后 Since she accept you 你不会再跟别人谈了 You won't talk to other people 你跟别人谈,只能把她当作她 You treat other people as he or she 你把她当作你对象的时候 But when you have someone you like 你跟她谈的时候,她是一个妳 And she become a thou 所以你不要I him, I her relationship It's not I-him, I-her relationship 你要I thou relationship But I-thou relationship 所以两个人谈了,相对的存在 And so when two person relative exist 变成相爱的生命 And you love each other 变成结合在一起合一 In union 你结婚了 You get marry 这是I thou relationship This is said I thou relationship This is only sweetest world 这是非常美满的一件事情 这是甜美的生命 Very sweet life 甜美的世界 A sweet world 你跟你所爱的人结婚了 You marry someone you love 但是我告诉你 But I tell you I thou relationship The I thou relationship 跟她在一起是永恒的吗? Is it eternal? 不一定的 Not necessary 法国有一句成语 There is a French phrase 爱我的,我不爱她 The one who love me, I don't love her 我爱她的,不爱我 But the one I love they don't love me 两个相爱的 不长久 But the two who love each other will not last 所以这个I thou是建立的 So I-thou maybe built up 不是一个eternal thou But it is not a eternal thou 你说:“是阿!我们约定到死不分离嘛” You say:"well, we will die together" 好像是这样 Seems like the case 一年以后,孩子生出来了 But one year later, when your child is born 你说:“you are my thou” 你说:“你是我的"你"” 但是她回答说:“you are not my thou。” 但是她说:“你不是我的"你"” “I am not your thou, who is your thou?” 你说:“我不是吗?那是谁?” My baby is my thou 这个baby是我的你 所以女子生了孩子就开始淡忘丈夫了 And so many women forget their husband once their child come 每天讲了:“嘻嘻嘻” 跟她的孩子 I thou I thou,不是你了 Everyday her focus is on the child not you anymore 你就变成一个被孤单化alienated again And you are alienated again 不要紧啦,至少还是我的孩子嘛 It's Ok, it's my child 跟孩子玩我也很快乐啦 I'm happy to play with child 人生就是这样啦 That's the way life is 已经不是从前那个thou Not like past anymore 有一天褪色了 A little bit fade 有一点打折扣了 A little bit discount 后来孩子越来越多,她越不睬你了 But the more children you have, the less she care about you 现在跟你好就是因为你给他钱 She is good to you because you pay her money 你没有带钱来,你根本不必回 Without money, don't even come home 没有thou也不要紧了 Doesn't matter with no thou 后来孩子慢慢长大以后 And when the child grow up 我也跟我孩子建立I thou relationship Well I want the I-thou relationship with my child 结完了以后呢 As well 孩子十八岁了 The child is eighteen 他不把你当作他的thou了 They don't consider you are thou 你说:“孩子阿,my thou。” You look at your child and say: "you are my thou" 孩子说:“My thou is not you” The child say:“你不是我的你” My thou is my girlfriend in my school 我的学校的那个女朋友才算 所以你又再失去了 So again you loss it 到最后孩子一个一个读书 And then the child go study 到英国读书,到美国读书,到澳洲读书 Go oversea, go America, England, Australia 一个一个去了 One by one 现在不得不第二次度蜜月,但是现在老来老去 Now you are both old for second honey moon 像鸡皮一样的老人家 Your skin looks like chicken skin I thou,很难看的thou了 So now your thou become quite ugly 一个老人家的thou了 Old people thou 刚刚第二次渡蜜月 The second honey moon just start 忽然间不久,一个死去了 But one would die suddenly 你又再完全空了 Again is empty 孩子走了,妻子死了 The child has left, the wife has died 孤独零丁,坚体衰老了 You are now alone, and you are grew older 没有力量了 No more strength 那你要问一个问题 Then you must ask this question Who is my immortal thou? 我那个永远的你到底是谁? Who is my unchangable thou 我那个不变的你到底是谁 Who is my perfect thou 完美的你到底是谁 You should return to God 你应该回到上帝的面前 我告诉你,很多人在他年老的时候 他才回到上帝面前 Many people return to God when they are old 所以所罗门说 Solomon said 趁着你年幼,纪念造你的主 (参 传12:1) Remember also your Creator in the days of your yourth 很多人年老的时候 回到上帝的面前的时候 神已经不给他机会了 Many times you go back to God when you are old God does not give you opportunity anymore 为什么很多人要到老的时候 才产生宗教的动力呢? Why do you become religious only when you are old 齐克果自己承认这件事情 Kierkegaard himself admit this 当你年轻的时候 When you are young 你过的第一段,是叫做aesthetic stage You live in aesthetic stage 当你人生更有经验的时候 But when you become more experienced 你活的第二段 叫做ethical stage The second life style is ethical stage 当最老的时候 When you get very old 你进到一个religious stage 那你就变成很有宗教情操 你现在跟神发生关系了 You have relationship with God 老了才亲近上帝 When you are old, then you think of God 老了才到上帝面前 Then you come before God 那你大半一生都已经度过了 But most of your life has passed 你的最好的黄金时代已经荒废了 The best of your years are gone 你老的时候,你到上帝面前 When you are elder, you come before God 我十七岁奉献做传道 I decided to be a preacher and give my life at seventeen 我已经服事我的主五十七年了 I've serve my Lord for fifty-seven years 我常常对祂说:“主阿,你是我的祢 I always said to God " Lord, you are my thou 祢是我的主,祢继续用我吧。” You are my Lord, use me please" 但我有一个表叔,这个人曾经要做过外交官 But I have an uncle, he once was a diplomat 曾经是中华民国对泗水的领事 And was consul of China 这个人七十八岁的时候 When he was seventy-eight 对我讲一句话 He said to me 他说我看破红尘了 Well he said I've seen true life 我对世界看透了 I've seen through everything of life 我是完全奉献给主 Now I give my life completely to the Lord 完全奉献给主 Completely give my life to the Lord 我说:“表叔阿,你没有办法完全奉献给主” And I said "uncle, you can't give everything to God now" 我说:“我完全,怎么没有办法 He said "I can 我什么都不要 I don't wanna anything 我完全奉献主。” I give to Lord everything" 我说:“你的时间没有完全奉献主 I said "well your time is not given to God completely 你年轻的时候爱赌博 When you were young you gamble 你年轻的时候爱喝酒 You drink 你年中的时候爱跳舞 In your middle age you like to dance 你七十八岁才完全奉献给主 And seven-eight you said you completely give life to God 你要奉献给主几年呢?” How many years do you give" 过一年多以后他就死了 More than a year he die 死的时候最靠近他的亲戚就是我 And I was the closest relative to him when his death 所以我替他洗澡,替他换衣服 So I bath him, I change him 我自己去买鞋子给他穿上去 I bought shoes for him 把他放在棺材里面 And put him in the coffin 他只有女儿,没有男孩子 He has daughters, no sons 他有一个养的男孩子在加拿大,不能回来 An adopted son in Canada 所以我什么都替他做好了 So I have do everything for him 但是我心里思想,你愿意完全奉献 In my heart I thought You are willing to give everything 但你只能奉献你残余的最后一年的时间 But actually you only can give the leftover time 什么叫做完全奉献呢? What does it mean to give completely? 不是你所有的完全 Not everything 是你整个生命的完全 But your life 整个思想的完全 Your thought 整个心态的完全 Your attitude 灵性的完全 Your spirituality 信仰的完全 Your faith 到祂的面前来 To come before God I thou 因为这一个关系 Because of this relationship 所以我们能祷告 We can pray 我们祷告,是来到这个永恒的祢面前 We pray, is before the eternal thou 不是要利用祂 Not to make use of him 不是要命令祂 Not to command him 不是要指挥祂 Not to direct him 我们不是要玩弄祂 And not to play fool for him 许多人的祷告是利用上帝 Many prayer are making use of God 许多人的祷告是玩弄上帝 Many prayers make fool for God 许多人祷告是命令上帝 Many prayers direct God 祷告不是命令上帝 The prayer is not directive to God 祷告是发现神给我的命令 Is to discover the command of God say 祷告不是改变上帝 Prayer is not to change God 祷告是求主的灵改变我这个败坏的人 To call the spirit of God to transform us 祷告不是利用上帝 Prayer is not to make use of God 祷告是把自己交给上帝,让祂使用我们 Is to put yourself in the hands of God that he may use us 主耶稣教导我们祷告的第一句话 So the very first sentence Jesus taught 你来到谁面前呢? Tell us who do you come before 你对谁讲话? To whom are you pray to 我们在天上的父(参 太6:9) 这句话太伟大了 This is such a great verse 把上帝叫做父 We consider God our father 没有一个宗教可以作到的事情 No religion can achieve this 孔子没有告诉我们有一个父在天上 Confuscious never told us there is a father in heaven 老子没有告诉我们有一个父在天上 Lao-tzu has never taught us there is a father in heaven 墨子孟子没有告诉我们有一个父在天上 Mencius and Mozi never tell us there is a father in heaven 佛教也没有告诉我们有一位天父在天上 Buddhism never told us there is a father in heaven 印度教也没有这样的话语 Neither does Hinduism 佛教是无神论的 Buddhism has no God 因为佛生出来,根据传说 一个手指指着上面,上天下地唯我独尊 It's seems that Buddha was born to point to heaven and earth and said heaven and earth I am the greatest 所以没有上帝的信仰 So there is no God in this faith 也没有天上的父的观念 No relationship with father 因为这是一个无神论的宗教 It is a religion without a God 那么佛教是无神论 Buddhism is without a God 那佛教徒拜什么呢 Then what is they pray to 他们拜一个不承认神的神 They pray to a God who doesn't admit self to be God 他们拜释迦摩尼 Śākyamuni 释迦摩尼从来没有说他是神 Śākyamuni never declaim he is God 释迦摩尼说我们每一个人都有佛性 He says all of us have buddha in us 所以如果你修身养性,清静无为,直到完全圣洁 进到涅槃的时候,你就变成一个佛 And so if you work quiet in your life and be built entire to the nirvana Then you become a buddha 所以他们要向谁祷告呢? So to whom do they pray? 向自己祷告 To themselves 结果他们不能向自己祷告 But they can't pray to themselves 因为他们是神所造的人 For they are made by God 他们在佛祖面前烧香 They would pray to gautama buddha 他们向gautama buddha Śākyamuni祷告 To pray to Śākyamuni 这是完全违背佛祖自己的教义的 But it is against Śākyamuni's own teaching 那么印度教徒向谁祷告呢? And Hindu? 印度教的神有三万万六千万个 They have three hundred and six million Gods 你不要说敬拜 Don't talk about pray 如果你能把他们名字找出来 Just remembering the name 一个一个念,念到死还没有念完 Til the day your die, you can not finish reading the name 三万万六千万个神 They are like three hundred and six million Gods 那么这个神跟我的关系是什么呢 So what the relationship do you have 这个神是木头,这个神是石头 The God can be wood, can be stone 这个神是牛,神是蟑螂 Can be a cow, can be a cockroach 神是飞鸟,神是狐狸 Can be a bird, can be a fox 神是所有的动物 Can be any livig being 很可怜的,人堕落祷这个地步 So it's most sad, then you have fallen so much 那么你说:“世界上有没有拜一个天父这样的神呢 ?” Is there a religion that would pray to a father? 只有希腊的一个诗人曾经讲过一句话 A greek poet once said “We are all born of you” “我们是从祢而生的” 我们都是从祢而生的 所以这一句话的隐喻,就是有一位神是我们的父 So implicitly there is a God who is our father 但是这个人叫做Cleanthes But his name is Cleanthes (克里安西斯,331-232 BC, 斯多亚派哲学家,学习哲学前是个拳击手) Cleanthes诗里面我去查了 I have read his poems 他在第二段的后面有一句话说 The second part of his poem says “我们是从祢而生” 所以保罗就在使徒行传第十七章 引用Cleanthes的一句话 And act seventeen Paul used his words 正如你们诗人说 Like your poet said 我们都是由祂所生的 We have been born of him 但是他从来没有称这位神是父 But he has never declared this God as a father 直到耶稣基督到世界上来的时候 And when Jesus came to the earth 祂讲这句话 And he told us this 你们祷告,要如此说“我们在天上的父” Pray like this, in this manner:"Our father in heaven" 亲爱的弟兄姐妹们 犹太人模糊父的观念 The Jews are vague in the concept of father 所以当耶稣说 So when Jesus said 你们的父不是亚伯拉罕的时候 Your father is not Abraham 他们说:“是 They say "yes 亚伯拉罕是我们的父。” Abraham is our father" 耶稣说:“你们的父不是上帝 。” Jesus said "Your father is not God" 他们混杂的回答 And their answers were confused 他们模糊的敷衍 And confused in their understanding 耶稣给他们下一个结论 And Jesus give them a conclusion 你们的父不是上帝 Your father is not God 你们的父不是亚伯拉罕 我们的父是亚伯拉罕 They said our father is Abraham 耶稣说:“如果亚伯拉罕是你们的父 Jesus said "If Abraham was your father 你们早就到我这里来 You would come towards me 因为当你们的父亚伯拉罕见我的时候 Because when your father Abraham met me 他就从远处欢迎 From the far he welcome me 他接待我,你们不是如此 He took care of me, but not so for you 当耶稣再讲更重一句话的时候 And when he rebuke them further 就揭穿了整个犹太教最败坏的东西 He exposed their decadence 你们的父是魔鬼 He said your father is the devil 为什么这样说呢? Why did he say that? 因为犹太人没有一个人遵行过律法 None of the Jews fulfill the laws 犹太人没有一个人亲近过上帝 None of them walk towards God 你们用嘴唇亲近我 Then you come across me with your lips 你们的心远远离开我 But your heart is far away from me 所以你们拜我是枉然的 So you worship in vain 我恨恶你们的安息日 I hate your sabbath 我厌烦你们的自由 I am sick of the facts 你们月望、月朔所献的祭,我都已经看厌了 And all your sacrifice on the moon and seasons I am sick of it 以色列人得到的律法,他们去遵行吗? The Israelite had the laws, did they follow it? 他们没有遵行,怎么知道以色列人没有遵行呢? They did not, how do we know this? 彼得在使徒行传第十五章讲一句话 Act chapter fifteen Peter says 原来从我们的祖宗到我们这里 没有一个人遵行过律法 From ancestors to now, none have fulfilled the law 那么这些宗教再做什么呢? So what are the religion do it? 他们在搞什么呢? What are they doing? 他们建立什么呢 ? What are they building? 他们都在建立自己的功劳 They are building their own work 所以他们十字路口大声祷告 And so they pray loudly at the street 他们在高处扬声祷告 And in the synagogue they pray 他要人看见他的虔诚 They want to let people to see 他们要人看见他们亲近上帝 They want people to see they are close to God 他们的宗教是以自私做出发点的 Their faith is build on selfishness 是荣耀自己做出发点的 To glorify themselves 所以耶稣说 So Jesus said Not Abraham Your father is the devil 有人像耶稣这样勇敢批判,这样勇敢讲话 Jesus was so brave in rebuking them 祂没有别条路可走,一定要被杀死 被钉在十字架上 His final conclusion must be crucifixion 因为祂讲的是真理 For he spoke the truth 人喜欢真理吗? Do we like truth? 人不喜欢听真理 We don't like to listen to the truth 人喜欢听实在的话吗? Do we want to hear words of truth? 我们不喜欢听实在的话 We don't like it 我们喜欢听好话 We want to listen to good things 我们喜欢听甜蜜的话 Sweet things We don't want to listen to the truth 上帝看全世界人 When God look at us 可恶、可悲、可怜 We are despicable, we are sad, we are pathetic 现在我告诉你 I tell you now 有了子的也就有了父(参 约一2:3) Those who has the son had father 没有子的就没有父 Those who has not the son, nor the father 认识子的,就认识父 Those who know the son, know the father 不认识子的,就不认识父 Those who do not know the son, do not know the father 我来把父显明给你们看 I have came to manifest father 我就是道路,我就是真理(参 约14:6) I am the way,the truth 我就是生命 And the life 若不借着我,没有人能到父那里去 No one goes to the father except through me 我从父出来到了世界(参 约16:28) I've come from father to the world 我要离开世界,往父那里去 And I'll leave the world to the father 你们在世界找不到父 You can not find the father in the world 因为在宗教里面没有父 You have no father in the religions 在我里面有父 But in me you'll find the father 回教徒可兰经的第一章 九十九个上帝的名称 In the first chapter of Koran the word "God" appear 99 times 什么最好的名称都归到上帝身上 All the most beautiful descriptions 但是只有九十九,少了一个 99, short 1 那一个名字呢?天父 Which word?Father in Heaven 回教徒不能称上帝为天父 The Muslim can not call God "the Father in Heaven" 因为上帝不给他这个权柄 For God did not give them this privilege 上帝把这个权柄赐给谁呢? And this privilege is given to 赐给信靠耶稣基督的人 Those who believe in Jesus Christ 约翰福音第一章第十二节告诉我们 John chapter 1 Verse 12 says 凡接待祂的,就是信祂名的人 To all who take on His Name, would believe in His Name 祂就赐给他们权柄,做上帝的儿女 He give them the power, to become children of God 保罗在罗马书八章十五节告诉我们 Roman chapter 8 verse 15 我们不是领受了奴仆的心 Paul says we do not receive heart of slaves 我们是领受了儿子的灵 But the Spirit of the Son 所以接待耶稣基督的 And so those who welcome Jesus 是接待耶稣的灵 Welcome Spirit of Jesus 耶稣的灵就是基督的灵,基督的灵就是上帝的灵 And the Spirit of Jesus is Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God 上帝的灵就是圣洁的灵 And the Holy Spirit 因为圣父、圣子、圣灵 God of Father, Son and Holy Spirit 上帝把祂的儿子赐给我们 God has gave us His Son 让儿子成为我们的长兄 The Son becomes our elder brother 引导我们一同成为祂的儿女 To guide us to become children of God 借着圣灵重生我们 Through the Holy Spirit we will reborn 所以圣灵是儿子的灵 And the Spirit is the Spirit of Son 儿子的灵进到我们里面的时候 And when the Spirit of Son come to us 我们就称为神的儿女 We become His children 我们就称祂为阿爸天父 We call him Abba Father 这是真正祷告的开始 This is the true beginning of prayer 各种宗教里面没有真正的祷告 No true prayers can be found in other religions 因为宗教里面人用祷告建立功劳,更离开上帝 We use prayers for own use and depart away from God even further 因为全本圣经告诉我们 The entire Bible tells us 上帝说 God says 不是我的子女的 Those who do not belong to Me 我要使他们成为我的子女 I would make them to My children 我要使自己成为他们的父 I would be their Father 旧约是如此,新约是如此 The old testament say that, the new testament say that 新约实际的行动赐下来 And in the new testament, the action was done 父把子赐下来 The Father gives us the Son 把万有交给子 And gives the Son all things 使子称为众子的长子 Let The Son become Firstborn among us all 使我们与基督一同成为后嗣 Together with Christ we inherit from God 使我们在基督里面一同成为上帝的儿女 Then we become children of God in Christ 儿子的灵进到我们的心里面 The Spirit of the son come to us 我们就呼求“阿爸天父” Then we can call Abba Father, Father in heaven 用这一句话开始你的祷告 And start your prayer this way 耶稣说 Jesus say 你们祷告的时候,要这样说 When you pray, pray like this Our Father in heaven 这关系多么亲密 This is such a close relationship 我是祂的孩子,是祂所爱的 I am His child, He loves me 祂是我的天父,有血缘关系 He is my Father in Heaven, there is a blood relationship 有亲属关系 There is a reality relationship 上帝竟然成为我的父亲 The God become relative to become my Father 我竟然成为上帝的儿女 Then I have become His children 所以我们叫阿爸天父 So we call Him Abba, Abba Father 我们就笃信不移 And so we held on firm in our faith 我们放胆、放心,来到祂的面前 And be completely confident to come before Him 把我们所需要的告诉祂 To tell him what we need 祂就照着祂的应许 And by his promises 照着祂丰富的恩典 By his abundance grace 施恩宝座把祂的恩惠赐给我 From his throne of grace, he will bless us 成为我们随时的帮助 To become our ready help 今天晚上你聆听了这一篇 This evening, after you heard this 你觉悟了以后 After you are awaken 你再祷告的时候 When you pray again 你恳求主给你发现天父是你的父 You ask God to show you He is indeed your Father 从今以后 From now 你跟非基督徒祷告,是完全不同的本质 Your prayer would be very different from non-Christians You come before your Father 你来到你自己父的面前 Your Heavenly Father 你的天父的面前